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    dinantes's Avatar
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    Prince Astos
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Last Chance to Talk me out of Getting AF2 Chest instead of +1...

    As stated in the title.

    I'm a warrior. I skipped the darklight chest/head (ugly) though I'm using the legs (nice accuracy boost vs darksteel). I'm wearing the AF2 head and a Militia Cuirass overmelded with Crit and lots of determination--which gives me stats equal to but different than DL.

    Was gonna get my +1 when the cap lifts tomorrow and hope for the Allagan chest to drop in turn 1, but after a fair bit of research it seems that the AF2 chest (or AF+1 as it should rightfully be called) is probably the Best in Slot for Warriors.

    Assuming I don't have issues holding threat (which as a warrior I don't) then it would seem the stat boost from the warrior chest is superior to the +1 Bravura.

    Also, though the cuirass is a better look than the DL tin can, getting the warrior chest would make me look badass, which I think we can all agree is priority number 1 in any mmo =)

    Advice appreciated!
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    Last edited by dinantes; 11-04-2013 at 07:59 PM.

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    Darthvoltrius's Avatar
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    Darth Voltrius
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Do turn 1 this week and see if the RNG gods bless you with allagan body/win the lot, if not then do what you want. Don't buy it immediately in case you buy the body and do turn 1 this week and allagan body drops and the other tank has it already or loses lot lol. But yeah Warrior body is sexy

    Edit: Didn't fully read the title but, remember that 1 Weapon DMG is a lot of your primary stat, don't remember how much right now but it's quite a bit.
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    Fayhd Apollo
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Had the same dilema and went for AF +1 body since it was a better stat improvement and most of to get the WAR look back.
    Was tired looking like a PLD
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    +1, any other choice is bad.
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    Russian Guyovich
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    You may want to take a closer look at all the stats to see how big of an upgrade the chest is at its cost. I know that the +1 weapon gives something like 2 weapon damage, 5 more vit, 4 str, 4 parry and 3 skill speed. Compared to getting alot more vit (12->33) on the chest and the increases physical/magical armor values (117->158 ), I would argue that the chest is more cost effective.
    I got my relic+1 first because I didn't know if I would have threat issues in coil but now looking back I can say that it would not have been a problem and that the chest is the best choice.
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    CianaIezuborn's Avatar
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    Ciana Iezuborn
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by dinantes View Post
    Assuming I don't have issues holding threat (which as a warrior I don't) then it would seem the stat boost from the warrior chest is superior to the +1 Bravura.
    Turn 4 for me was the reason to +1, the need to almost instantaneously pick up adds and hold aggro on them while people full burn the constant dps race made it the right choice. This was compounded by the huge influence weapon damage has on flash for paladins, this may be a lesser effect for warriors and overpower.

    If you're already able to complete Turn 4, I wouldn't see a problem with getting the chest especially considering the jump from what you're currently wearing. I fully support getting rid of platemail face syndrome and hope to drop mine next week after Coil!
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    Dyss Omnia
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    Excalibur
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    Get the af because it a bigger upgrade survival wise. Ya the +1 will last you till turn 5 but you need the gear to make it there and I have had no threat issues yet and I have clear up to turn 5. The chest also has acc on it and the soft cap is 472, unless you want to eat stuffed cabbage AF is the best upgrade. In a 5 weeks of clearing coil I have sadly seen no tank drops so do not play the rng game
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    Rachel Alucard
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I don't understand why people buy +1 head first. It forces you to wear a body piece that is greatly inferior to HDL and doesn't provide any immediate benefits in terms of overall stats. You should have bought +1 Body first and used Hoplite Circlet temporarily since that is a noticeable upgrade. In OP's case, get that +1 body asap so you can rid yourself of Militia Cuirass. Then, work on the weapon.
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    Prince Astos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    AF+1 Body it is!

    A DPS friend had me nearly sold on the +1 Bravura, but since my main priority is staying alive the armor will have to come first.

    As for getting the head first, it was on the advice of a very well-informed warrior, and let me do the latter part of my 50 grinding in something much more dynamic than heavy darklight, which is pretty much the most awful-looking endgame armor I've ever seen, in part because it is a re-skin of lvl 25 armor but this time with MORE SHOULDERPAD!

    Anyway, I greatly appreciate the input. Thanks again, and since it'll be a few days before I cap myth feel free to weigh in still!
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by dinantes View Post
    AF+1 Body it is!

    A DPS friend had me nearly sold on the +1 Bravura, but since my main priority is staying alive the armor will have to come first.
    Good.

    Our WAR in Turn 4 had the following observations:

    1. He can easily hold AOE threat, but what he has a harder time with and has to optimize in more detail is holding AOE threat while maintaining enough TP for the rest of the fight. It's not just about raw AOE threat, per se. It's about how many resources you have to dump to hold it. However, he can get by ok with Flashes and a mana potion (for more Flashes). The result from that optimization as well as a general familiarity with our DPS output has allowed him to manage his TP with a relic, no +1.

    2. What is harder to deal with is the raw damage intake, since we have him tank virtually every non-dreadnought critter in the place. For that, the chest upgrade is more critical.

    3. What doesn't get as much attention, but is equally important, is not simply the WAR surviving or dying. What is critical is how much healer attention they get. Our healer can keep him up no problem ... unless they're healing someone tanking the Rook, and keeping up the main tank on the Dreadnought, and they spend that 1 GCD on the WAR and boom, 1.5 sec lagspike, double crit on the main tank and domino -> raid wipe.

    The fact that the chest reduces healer attention regardless of whether the WAR dies or not also helps the case for the chest. Anyways, GL with your Coil.
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