Shortage of Tank .......

The lag from the NA servers has kept me out of dungeons for a couple weeks. It's made it really hard to keep aggro or my skills go off at the wrong times. I'm not even going to try Titan HM with it going on. Not sure if this is other tanks reasons for the shortage.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

In EA I tanked all the story dungeons up to Tam Tara with yella carby, without a 'real' tank <3 Was a bit hard convincing people I pulled from shout I could be the main heal/dps/tank at the same time though :p

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I'm talking about DF where your job is supposed to be DPS, not tanking because you already get a "tank" character in the party ;P Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should :) You are there pre 30 in a DPS role.

Comments like that have not discouraged me from tanking.

I'm at the point now where I don't have trouble holding threat, even when the party is being stupid and not following targets/aoeing, but prior to that, when they did need to watch their threat meters and follow targets, and would blame me for them pulling threat; I'd simply remind them I waited about 2 seconds in queue, and they could either follow instructions, or wait another 2 hours for a replacement. Even with the 15 min debuff you'll be in a new dungeon before them.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

In EA I tanked all the story dungeons up to Tam Tara with yella carby, without a 'real' tank <3 Was a bit hard convincing people I pulled from shout I could be the main heal/dps/tank at the same time though :p

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You're part of the reason I've stopped tanking, idiot dps that think they're better then me. The Archers that pull for me because they're impatient to wait for me to get my TP back, the summoners who have it in their head that they don't need another person. The Thaumas that don't know the meaning of the word threat.

The game has flawed tanking mechanics. Granted I did it on a half tank half dps class, the marauder. Which lacks nearly every single mechanic needed to tank known to man, I'm sorry but health alone doesn't cut it.

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Originally Posted by Zer0

You're part of the reason I've stopped tanking, idiot dps that think they're better then me. The Archers that pull for me because they're impatient to wait for me to get my TP back, the summoners who have it in their head that they don't need another person. The Thaumas that don't know the meaning of the word threat.

The game has flawed tanking mechanics. Granted I did it on a half tank half dps class, the marauder. Which lacks nearly every single mechanic needed to tank known to man, I'm sorry but health alone doesn't cut it.

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:T You're talking to a person that mains War, honey. A mrd is most definitely NOT a 'half dps half tank' (we're a full-on tank that can do some decent dps). We have more than enough 'tank skills', I don't see where you got that idea (ever heard of the term 'blood tank'? War isn't Pld, don't play it like one.). Also I was talking about a premade groups I would make during Early Access because I wanted to level ACN along with the story and there were hardly any tanks and the DF wait was (is) atrocious.

EDIT: Don't give up tanking just because of people that don't know how to play on a team, and don't believe that Mrd is 'half dps half tank with no tank skills' that's nonsense. Mrd/War is even the preferred tank until Titan HM and Coil, so I *really* have no idea where you got that 'no tank skills' from.

DOUBLE EDIT: The game doesn't have flawed tanking mechanics either, enmity is a team effort, plain and simple. Did you know there was a threat meter? Did you know you can tab through targets to see how much threat you have/how much threat your team mates have on a specific mob? Trust me, play the class some more, get with some people that you like playing with, tanking in this game is fun and rewarding if you put in the effort.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

This is a game, learn how to experiment and work together, you may be surprised on some results when you are thinking out of the box.

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I've 2 manned guilhests (no tank, no healing because they both dropped out at the start) and 3 manned the starting story dungeons (up to the last boss) without a healer(or acranist/smn) ;) I'm pretty sure I can "experiment" well enough :)

But when I need to gather the mobs (as a low mrd) so that I can keep hate with my limited range AoE (because some people just refuse to follow numbers when I clearly mark them) and the smn won't put his topaz away... Makes it more of a challenge than it needs to be. I ran the low dungeons to help people(and level up), not because I needed to finish them. I finished them all on my arcanist the 1st time to hauke (on that character) But had enough bad experiences just trying to help others out that I won't go back and play tank to mid or high level dungeons.

Don't worry guys and gurls !

I will roll a tank after I've finished my Bard and save all the low lvl dudes from their nightmares !!!

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Originally Posted by Teleniel

tanks as people give up for various reasons (bad party members often)

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I only tried rolling a tank to help get people through the first story dungeons because they had a severe lack of them but the overall experience left me not wanting to play them at all. I was at least trying to help others in an area I never cared for in the first place but in the end, just had too much BS to continue.

There is a Huge Shortage of Tanks because end game dps treat them like crap. Stop being jerks taking hate on mobs on purpose and hitting the off targets. Better yet let the tank do his job and get hate before you go off on a tangent and pull mobs or hit other mobs that clearly the tank did not flash yet. Could say something about healers and how they treat tanks but tbh it's not as bad as the DPS. Let the tank be a tank and you will find more of them in DF.

All I want is a taunt, just one ability a taunt. I lose threat ALL THE TIME and once I do, there isn't any getting it back.

I swear dps out threat me, and healers do better aoe threat then I do. I don't know if it's just low level threat that has problems, but something isn't right with the games threat mechanics.