How often do you use sacred soil?

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

the way im looking at it is someone has to take 1000 damage for sacred soil to cut off 100 damage wich isnt even that much.

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I do agree, it takes alot for sacred soil to be worth it. Hell, arguably one of the worst offenders of AOE damage being titan would deal only ~250 less damage per person in sacred soil after each of his jumps.

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SS aint doing shit for me when a whole bunch of people are damaged and i cant decide what to do because i have no answer for that situation.

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Well SS is ment to be used before the damage goes out. It's terrible as an 'oh shit' reactive cooldown.

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i get what you saying about 8 mans but im thinking more of 4 mans where it feels useless.

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I throw it down whenever I get the chance in 4 mans for a few reasons:

- to play the 'how long the tank can go without taking damage' game if adloquium crits+swiftcasted stoneskin on top.
- i shouldn't need to lustrate on trash groups the vast majority of the time
- nothing better to do with atherflow charges because of the aforementioned point. I do use bane, though.

Tsk...
Use Aetherflow for Energy Drain or Bane in Cleric Stance.
Screw Lustrate/SS, it's all about the dps, let the lil floating healb!tch do the healing while she's aroused.

In all seriousness, only times SS is worth it is when a lot of people are taking heavy dmg, or when a huge ass dmg spike is coming in on the tank and you know it miles in advance.
And with huge ass dmg spike I'm talking about 90% or more tank hp gone in that 1 hit if not mitigated.

I believe there is a balance to be struck between lustrate and sacred soil.

Sacred soil mitigates damage recieved by everyone in the area of effect. While lustrate provides 20% hitpoint to a single target; that means that in single target situations there is a sweet spot somewhere where the damage mitigated by sacred soil over it's lifetime is LESS than the health that would've been restored by applying lustrate (Which in the case of a single tank scenario they would have to have twice their hitpoints worth of damage directed at them (and healed) within the span of a single sacred soil), making lustrate a preferable use of aetherflow). However in HM content with so many timed AoEs getting flung about the balance almost always falls on the side of Sacred Soil where it matters making it a matter of choosing it's timing rather than what to spend it on.

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Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO

I believe there is a balance to be struck between lustrate and sacred soil..... SNIP .....
...it matters making it a matter of choosing it's timing.

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I would dissagree.
Aoe dmg almost always (except Titan HM pretty much) comes with one burst and then there is a period of no aoe dmg.

I do not need to mitigate that dmg by 10% most of the time IF:
-My Succor is enough to outheal it
-I got my fairy regen to heal it up over time before next aoe
-Next aoe comes so much later that I can have my my fairy heal the ones low on hp and cast succor to top everyone else off

So most times Aetherflow is best saved for Energy Drain if Lustrate is not needed before Aetherflow is recharged.

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Originally Posted by ReviiLagoon

It is incredibly useful on Garuda. The Sisters spawn at exactly 3 minute intervals, so what you do is the second you see garuda dissapear, cast Eye for an Eye on the tank, Sacred soil the area, Virus Garuda, and succor / heal away. By the time the next sisters spawn everything is off cooldown, and Sacred Soil helps mitigate a ton of the damage by the sisters, making it fairly easy to keep everyone alive assuming they are positioned right.

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It's pretty great for Titan too, SS on P5 stomps=lifesaver.

Sacred soil has to mitigate 20% of your main tanks max health or more to start becoming worth the stack in my opinion. This means effectiveness drops when you have a Warrior tank due to Lustrates effectiveness increasing.

In coil I have no accuracy
so I use it a lot!
and lustrate

I use it frequently if the tank is fighting aboss with an unavoidable spike move or AoE that would hit the melees or adds that don't go down quickly... I genrally save energy drain for if I'm @ or below 50% MP I see your concerns with the percentage dmg reduction but it's more about the potential to get a free succor cast... those bubbles are the wholllleee big picture of SCH healing. We are preventative healers not burst healers.

Why would energy drain even be on your bars?

Lustrate on the tank saves you more mp by not requiring physicks than energy drain provides.

So unless you're sitting on an aetherflow and like 3 stacks (which you wouldn't need aetherflow anyway...since you're at max mp), its better to let the tank drop and lustrate rather than keep sustain healing with physicks and use energy drain.

Lustrate is the best spot-heal in the game, but it doesn't do any good until your target takes damage. Sacred Soil is one of the only ways to prevent damage from a big hit you know is coming, and should be used in conjunction with Lustrate to get the job done. I've saved a tank in Wanderer's Palace on the Tonberry King with this before, for instance, when the boss got five or six stacks of Furor. You can't Lustrate a corpse.