.... but it's not though...Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
You will log in, you'll still be Melfina Amastacia , Lancer level 50, you'll still have your +2 dragoon spear or whatever. you'll still have the same skills. same monsters, same areas (revamped). many of the same game systems still in place. lol.
I don't think you know what a sequel is
What is this I don't even...
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02-25-2013, 04:47 PMClausL
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02-25-2013, 04:48 PMAbriaelThat's your opinion. The only difference is that I talk about facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClausL
The areas are completely different. They have the same names, but they're completely new 3D models and textures.Quote:
I'm pretty sure FFXIV will still be taking place in the same areas, with the same characters and classes, same items, same data, and a lot of revamps, even if there's new coding, it's not a new game.
Same characters mean nothing, as lot of sequels let you import your character from the previous game. Doesn't make them the same game.
Classes are completely remade, not even the combat system is the same. Some items make a comeback (but that happens in most sequels as well), but there are a ton of new ones.
Nice personal attack. Unfortunately it doesn't really bother me, and doesn't take any validity away from my arguments, that you can't seem to counter.Quote:
I have to wonder what creates a hostile fanbeast such as yourself... I have played every FF, and loved most of them, played FFXI for 5 years. preordered FFXIV, collectors edition... but from the sound of your attitude you would sacrifice your unborn child for Yoshi P, hahaha. it's just a game.
That's your opinion, but doesn't hold much water considering you don't even seem to know what we're talking about.Quote:
I'm looking forward to FFXIV's ARR update but it doesn't look like it's doing much new compared to other MMORPGs.
Again, lots of sequel let you import your old character. Your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by ClausL
No, she won't. All classes will be completely redone. Characters won't have the same skills.Quote:
you'll still have the same skills
The same can be said for any sequel. Oh, the areas have been redesigned from scratch. Not "revamped", and most of the old game's systems will be gone, replaced by entirely new ones.Quote:
same monsters, same areas (revamped). many of the same game systems still in place. lol.
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02-25-2013, 04:48 PMispano
I've seen plenty of sequels do that, you haven't? A sequel is a continuation of the story, do I really need to beat you with a dictionary?
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02-25-2013, 04:57 PMClausL
well in game terms a sequel is a bit different, but alright
it feels like I'm sort of arguing with a brick wall here anyway. (I'm also being teamed up on by several people which doesn't help haha)
to get back to my original point, I don't think you guys should get so angry that one person didn't like the game. it's clearly marked as an opinion article. -
02-25-2013, 04:59 PMispano
In game terms? The word Sequel means the same thing(s) pretty much wherever you go, be it books, movies or games.
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02-25-2013, 05:01 PMJavinoThe only thing I have to say to any of this, is that... Even if it is an opinion. It's "Press Opinion" and that can hurt the integrity of the game as well as affect customer decisions whether to buy or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClausL
With that said... I don't think it's fair for them to bash a game solely based on a "Beta Version" 2hr trial. Just my 1 gil. -
02-25-2013, 05:02 PMAbriaelPersonally, I'm not "angry" that one person didn't like the game. Plenty people don't like the game. I'm appalled (that isn't the same thing as angry), by the poor journalism that permeates that article to the point of making factually false points and using hyperbolic, flamebaitish and disrespectful terminology, and as such I criticize it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClausL
There are other fairly negative articles out there, but at least they're written with a shred of respect for the people working on this game, and the writers did their best at the very least to get their facts right. And that's plenty ok.
There's a big difference between stating a negative opinion and misrepresenting and mocking a game, doing a disservice to one's readers.
If I was like Ben Kuchera, that you're defending, I'd just respond "Haha, you're the dude that made an account just to come here and make a nonsensical thread stating that they should scrap the PS3 version, you're a waste of my time" (which is pretty much exactly what he told us). Luckily I'm not like that, and I value discussion, so I take my time to respond to your points. -
02-25-2013, 05:05 PMClausL
I actually think the write up of her short preview of the game listed quite a few points and I don't see her lying or making "factually false" points anywhere.
it seems like you just don't LIKE what she's saying. big difference.
I love your repeated use of the word "DISRESPECTFUL"... for giving negative feedback to a video game. Come back to reality -
02-25-2013, 05:08 PMClausL
by the way, chatting with you folks is exhausting. I fear for the future of ARR because any new players will get their heads bit off if they criticize the game (and they will)...
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02-25-2013, 05:09 PMispanoHere's one: "Copying this design from Guild Wars 2 isn’t a crime in and of itself" They got inspiration for it from Warhammer, same place GW2 did. Yoshi even stated this in another interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClausL
Also, yes, calling something half-assed is disrespectful to the devs, period.