Aggro Icon

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Originally Posted by Vesper

I would say the following would be a good idea.

• Keep the icons, but shrink them by 50%
• Add the ability to toggle them on and off via the configurations (like names)

this allows those who hate them the change to hide them and allows those who like them their ability to use em. Win/Win.

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+1 and agreed so much. Aggressive mobs need to be marked for the newer players. The way they currently do it i'm sure we all can agree is awful looking. The best possible approach is making it able to toggle on and off. Personally I would have it off, but new players get frustrated when they have no idea whats does or doesn't attack them. I remember a friend complaining about this in particular when we played open beta together.

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Originally Posted by Sojiro

but new players get frustrated when they have no idea whats does or doesn't attack them. I remember a friend complaining about this in particular when we played open beta together.

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What ever happen to using your memory for the next time? If it attacked me before, I'll steer clear of it next time.

Ef personal responsibility or having a need for any kind of adaptive play to remember.

Hold my hand.

Give me a cuddle.

And make sure to put a spotlight on the mean'o monsters that want to hurt me.

Bleeeeh

I don't have an issue with the icon itself, my problem is the fact it is the center of attention. It's a giant Red blob, and it is an eyesore. They need to make it look better, and not be so damn ugly. The option to toggle it would also be nice for those that don't like it.

And the people that attack Non-Aggro when it is obvious there is aggro nearby that will infact aggro you when you fight near it, need to go play a different game. Or die.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

Guys, no one helps newbies anymore. Newbies get stuck and quit.

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Well, I can't say that I don't like helping others. And besides, if that really were a game breaking issue for newcomers SE could limit the usage of stuff like that to rank 1 to 10.

Anyone who has played the game for a week knows there is only a handful of mobs that are aggressive. I think this icon is an eyesore and would gladly have it removed, were the decision up to me.

Allow us toggle it on and off.

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Originally Posted by Vackashken

What ever happen to using your memory for the next time? If it attacked me before, I'll steer clear of it next time.

Ef personal responsibility or having a need for any kind of adaptive play to remember.

Hold my hand.

Give me a cuddle.

And make sure to put a spotlight on the mean'o monsters that want to hurt me.

Bleeeeh

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*sigh*

I appreciate that new players struggle with the concept of identifying aggroing mobs (who hasn't mistaken a giant gobbue for an oversized teddy bear before? >.> <.<), but it's almost insulting (or sad, if it's really true) to think that new players are incapable of remembering their experiences. Life is about learning from our experiences - eg: if you touch the iron while it's on, you learn not to do it again (in most cases).

However, I suppose the compromise would be the ability to toggle this "assistance" on and off, like others have said.

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Originally Posted by Arya

*sigh*

I appreciate that new players struggle with the concept of identifying aggroing mobs (who hasn't mistaken a giant gobbue for an oversized teddy bear before? >.> <.<), but it's almost insulting (or sad, if it's really true) to think that new players are incapable of remembering their experiences. Life is about learning from our experiences - eg: if you touch the iron while it's on, you learn not to do it again (in most cases).

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Exactly what I mean.

Exactly...

I hate the icon. It takes away from the adventure part of the game. People should know when playing a mmo that there will be agressive and you should be careful when wondering around. Also, in this game the enemies that do aggro are far enough spread out that you should have no problem getting by them.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

Think ppl need to get off the exploration mindset. This game was suppose to be fore the "less time consuming" crowd. It takes time to learn what aggros and what don't. [SNIP] And in reality just because you have a "i aggro" sign, don't really do much in taking away from the adventure. It just makes this game less time consuming. [SNIP] I used to play ffxi for 2 hrs a day, because I had to share a ps2 with my brother and had no wireless internet. Once I had to start exploring I wasted alot of time because of death. It wasn't fun.

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I couldn't agree more.

A big complaint in reviews is that FFXIV was missing the 'pick up and play' quality. Lack of tutorials, no help for new players.

This is a small bit of information that can help them, and I'm frankly surprised at the opposition and the elitist attitudes. That the 'noobs should just know what's up'.

I, for one, NEVER thought that accidental aggro in FFXI was amusing. I was a White Mage, and accidental aggro often meant death, which meant loss of XP and frustration. FFXIV's new direction is about alleviating player frustration.

If some people are so opposed to it, then, fine, move it next to the con shield over the mob's nameplate. Put all the info in one place. Make it optional. Maybe that would make everyone happy.

But, please, don't remove it. And make it show by default for the new people.