Pulling the bosses In dungeons as DPS a thing now?

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Originally Posted by Vulcann

just had this the other night

i pulled a pack and had aggro and the DPSer ran in front of me and pulled the next pack of mobs. I simply told my wife (the white mage of the group) "don't heal xxxxx and don't rez him", causing the DPSer to die and run back. Guess what that dps DIDN'T do the rest of the dungeon?

if you said "attack things that the tank didn't" ... you would be correct.

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You just displayed perfectly why I don't like running content with couples- "Us against the party". Would you complain if a healer was AFK healing while casting a heal every 10 seconds? I'm sure you would. Would you complain if a DPS wasn't using oGCD abilities, single targeting groups or, and lord knows why, exclusively using AoEs on a boss? I'm sure you would because these are all examples of intentionally poor play. Burdens- like a small pull tank. I understand if it's a tanks first time in a duty, or they aren't that experienced in the game- but let's face it, you're likely neither. This kind of arrogance only comes from experience.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

No, I'll go pull the pack. And when you let me die to teach me my place, I'll stop healing you to teach you yours. ;)

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This is a hilarious comeback, bravo.

It's pretty rare for me to have a healer or dps pull a boss when I'm tanking. I mean, it's not that uncommon in like, Satasha or Totorak, but in high level stuff I almost never see it. Though it did happen to me once in arboretum hard, which particularly annoyed me because the ninja wasn't aoeing the whole dungeon. I didn't see a single katon or doton. And that was when we still had TP and I never saw his tp dipping low to suggest he was using death blossom either. Yet when we got to the last boss and stopped for 5 seconds to ask 'who wants to handle the mud pie' the ninja just ran right in and pulled.

Oh I'm sorry were you in a hurry? Maybe you shouldn't have been single targeting the whole dungeon then.

On occasion, I will get a dps that pulls enemies, but bosses is pretty rare. Though so is the former since more often than not I go for big pulls anyway.

In content that matters, you pull it, you tank it. I’m a old school player, tank sets the pace the others just follow

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Originally Posted by silentdevo

In content that matters, you pull it, you tank it. I’m a old school player, tank sets the pace the others just follow

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Personally I let healer set the pace in ShB. There is a gap in healing output requirement in ShB dungeon, and I have no way to tell if a healer would be able handle it. If a healer pull one more pack, then I will start to pull wall to wall because I know (hope) they can do it.

On the other hand if dps pulls it I'll let the little turd die because they don't know a damn thing

As a healer watching a dps pull the named and the tank didn't move, I would have backed out behind the line and grabbed my popcorn. But I seriously doubt I would have vote kicked anybody unless they were being a complete "insert your favorite derogatory word here". Overall I find this funny.

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Originally Posted by OrdaDa

"I may lose my stacks" - BOTD is on a 30-second basis and can literally be refreshed before losing your eyes (but you need a good ping), Anatman exists, Umbral Soul is great, SMN doesn't have much stack-y things etc etc.

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I've still had a handful of times where I've had the tank move towards the boss as I'm ticking down to a few seconds, I refresh BotD, and then he doesn't pull... for more than another 17 seconds, at which point even ST couldn't save the stacks.

Its per 30, but only a 20 second duration, against which you need 4 GCDs before you can extend it (almost another 10 seconds) in single-target combat. It effectively gives you, therefore, just over 10 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Vulcann

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What checklist does "demands spouse, whom carries necessary resources, not interact with another person with the intent of depriving and humiliating said person" fill, I wonder?

DPS pulling mobs is fine as long as they bring it to the group and don't kite it around like a jackass. As for bosses the only problem is sometimes the boss will be off center, but that's such a non-issue 99% of the time anyways. Basically boils down to fragile egos.

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Originally Posted by whiskeybravo

DPS pulling mobs is fine as long as they bring it to the group and don't kite it around like a jackass. As for bosses the only problem is sometimes the boss will be off center, but that's such a non-issue 99% of the time anyways. Basically boils down to fragile egos.

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I'll fully admit I don't exactly practice the "always on 100% of the time" I'm preaching here. Most times in the 4mans I'll just do my thing and leave even if I'm screaming at the monitor, no matter which M&M color I signed up as.

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Originally Posted by Awha

You told your wife eh? I guess you are a control freak in your personal life also.

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You jumped to the conclusion of calling someone a "control freak" with just few words without a context, just wow.