SE, please designate a Role Play friendly server!

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Originally Posted by RolandDebreton

The nerve of them, using the normal chat features and emotes, what do they think this is, some kind of massive multiplayer role playing game? As some have pointed out people can fill the chats, and the shouts with obscenity riddled soliloquies, /pose and do repeated miquo'te stretches (which makes quite an emote sound) in an attempt to be offensive or to mimic PDA, talk about politics, sports, sex, whatever for hours. God forbid someone have fun and tell a fantasy story as a group.

I know you RPers seem to want to have your own server, but I for one think it would be a tragedy if all the imagination and fun of an exciting group of people were lost to one place and not allowed to be shared with multiple people.

I would not be upset if Besaid and Rabanastre were merged, good luck to you all regardless.

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Pages upon pages of text spam in say is, in fact, rude. This is just your opinion toward that kind of thing going on during RP and that is valid! However, that just means that you tolerate that form of rudeness. This is why we have different chat channels. If it were truly RP, and they were having a personal conversation in character, they would do this in /tells.

If they intend to have it be heard so maybe another RP passerby can notice and join in. That's completely understandable and this may be normal for that type of play style. However, for people who are not involved in RP this is generally rude.

Let's not treat Vedis like they are being unkind or unreasonable as if they are annoyed at someone with a mental disability. These are other players, just like you and I, who feel that their play style in general don't hold the same standards. They are not "special" and shouldn't be treated as such.

I am certainly not anti RP, but the reaction to the OP throughout the pages of this thread show the opposite of why SE should designate an official RP server. Under these circumstances with low populations it would be unwise to name an RP server due to the strong opinions against the community and you'll have a big mess on your hands with a large amount of players on one server submitting applications to move servers. More so than if they didn't officially name one. It's insensitive and it's unfair to not recognize any community and not see them as valid, but for consolidation it does make more sense to acknowledge more general and larger regional specific communities.

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Pages upon pages of text spam in say is, in fact, rude.

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Agreed.

I roleplay, and guess what is one of my biggest player-focused gripes in XIV? Trying to read through some text from an NPC and getting spammed to an all new 8th circle of hell by some inconsiderate RPers, awkwardly pretending to be badasses.

I really don't want a designated RP server, either. Just like paid, professional actors do not walk around in character 24/7, I find it really creepy when people expect other RPers to always be in character. I play XIV to hang out with friends and relax. Sometimes that means acting out stuff in character for fun, sometimes that means just being me. I support a healthy social server that is a mix of RPers and non-RPers who more or less all respect each other.

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Originally Posted by Aveline

Agreed.

I roleplay, and guess what is one of my biggest player-focused gripes in XIV? Trying to read through some text from an NPC and getting spammed to an all new 8th circle of hell by some inconsiderate RPers, awkwardly pretending to be badasses.

I really don't want a designated RP server, either. Just like paid, professional actors do not walk around in character 24/7, I find it really creepy when people expect other RPers to always be in character. I play XIV to hang out with friends and relax. Sometimes that means acting out stuff in character for fun, sometimes that means just being me. I support a healthy social server that is a mix of RPers and non-RPers who more or less all respect each other.

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If only we had chat filters.


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Wait.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

If only we had chat filters.


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Wait.

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So, let's block all of /say channel to deal with it. That sounds reasonable. Also, let's not get defensive. I don't see any personal attacks thrown in that post. Maybe some should develop their character to go through a learning experience where they grow the f#$% up.

Easy way to solve this problem...

Designate an RP Server. Designate an RP Chat Channel within the server. Those who will follow the RP Chat those that don't won't bother. All is solved.

RPing doesn't mean spamming chat. It doesn't mean I'm gonna play a horny X, Y, Z character that only likes so and so. It's about taking on a ROLE of a fantasy character in a fantasy world.

I'd personally be an ole' fisherman seeking the king of fishes or a farmer...if you met me fishing by the water side...I'd reckon saying something like...

Them fish sure aren't biting today...or I can't wait to take these fishies home to my wife for a good hot meal.

When I felt like tanking and I met a damsel I might say my lady how may I serve you today?

People think that RPing is running around spamming like mad and it's truly not what RPing is about. I might have had a blast playing with a group of friends today. So I might relay the tale of conquest in a wild elaborate story for those around me to here. I might call to invite those that want to hear to gather...and weave a tale of wonder and intrigue.

I might have done an in-game event and discovered when the "comet" was ending our world...and I might relay that in a tale...I'd do it subtly I wouldn't spam it over and over again.

The essence of role play is to immerse yourself into the world. There are times RPers don't RP too..it's just another layer of game play.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

I am certainly not anti RP, but the reaction to the OP throughout the pages of this thread show the opposite of why SE should designate an official RP server. Under these circumstances with low populations it would be unwise to name an RP server due to the strong opinions against the community and you'll have a big mess on your hands with a large amount of players on one server submitting applications to move servers. More so than if they didn't officially name one. It's insensitive and it's unfair to not recognize any community and not see them as valid, but for consolidation it does make more sense to acknowledge more general and larger regional specific communities.

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With the change in plans regarding server merges (option #2), I think most would agree that this would be the most logical course of action:

Besaid + merge candidate = roleplay server

I honestly don't think there would be a population issue if they went this route. Of course there would be some people who apply to leave the server. I will guarantee that's going to happen anyway, since some people who greatly dislike RP have wanted to leave Besaid for a while and this is their first chance to transfer. But there will also be people who apply to transfer to Besaid, such as scattered RPers on other servers or people who just want to join the community.

Besaid has such a positive and tight-knit community. If you go to the world forums, you'll see that there was a movement to keep the Besaid community together through the merge, RPers and all (ironically enough, it was started by TheVedis). Roleplayers and non-roleplayers alike wanted to keep our community intact. SE officially acknowledging what the players have already decided by designating Besaid the roleplay server won't cause a mass exodus within the current community since it's already common knowledge (if only unofficial), and incoming players from the upcoming merge have a right to an informed decision. For current Besaid residents, I honestly don't see it changing a thing. But it will make it easier for other roleplayers and those who enjoy the atmosphere to find the RP hub (thus giving the RP community a chance to thrive) and won't surprise non-roleplayers who vehemently dislike that playstyle with unknowingly choosing our server.

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Originally Posted by Brigandier

I voted for OP's post. Not because I support RPers, but because I support the removal of people who dislike RP from their environment, like me.

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Fixed.
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I don't see why some people dislike RP. Most RP players are much nicer than your average random guy off the Ul'dahn streets.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

If only we had chat filters.


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Actually, it's called a blacklist. Which is where all the inconsiderate RPers I meet go to in my social lists. If they can't meet the rest of the server halfway in being a cooperative part of the community, rather than expecting us all to cater to them, then they aren't worth listening to in any way or form.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

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I loved your post, to be honest. Here's what I really wish would happen. Besaid continues to be the RP server, unofficial or official.

SE should create a /roleplay on flag. It should:

• Put a little symbol next to your name, separate from repair requests, bazaar, or linkshell. That way, you'd know who you would(n't) take offense to you walking up, waving, and introducing yourself.
• Allow other players to filter all non-linkshell, non-/tell communication from that player with a single chat filter ("In-character Chat Show/Hide")
• Allow the flagged players the option to filter all non-flagged communication ("Out-of-character Chat Show/Hide")

Then, some neat (optional) features that could stem from this idea later in development:

• Nearby NPCs might occasionally interact with flagged passers-by--saying hello, or starting a discussion about a mission they need you to complete.
• etc.

On second though, I doubt anyone actually reads this post anyway. >.> Not putting any more thought into it.

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Originally Posted by Mychael

I loved your post, to be honest. Here's what I really wish would happen. Besaid continues to be the RP server, unofficial or official.

SE should create a /roleplay on flag. ...

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What do you mean doubt anybody reads it? That's a bloody brilliant idea o.O

My concern would be the likelihood of the developers implementing it. It'd be cheaper than setting up and maintaining a server (which they would probably have to do if they didn't follow this suggested thread's suggestion now, while there's opportunity) obviously, and have the benefit of being globally applicable - only reason we're asking all this now is because with the merge, it'd be an opportune label to add a label to one of them. And it wouldn't be without precedent; I'm pretty sure Everquest 2 has systems at least somewhat similar.

Concerns about likelihood of such a system being implemented aside, I certainly think if I had to choose between your suggestion and an officially-suggested RP server, I'd go with your suggestion.