The MSQ Endwalker Trial Bosses are WAY too hard for newer players to FFXIV

Trial 2 is the only one harder than normal
And I wish more were as difficult as that one, Titania, Tsukuyomi ect.

The latter two trials for SHB were kind of a joke once you became even just slightly accustomed to the mechanics which was a big disappointment for me

I love all 3 of EW's trials so far

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Originally Posted by LilyPendragon

I think this is already the case, I don't think you can get something you haven't cleared in a roulette.

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You can. I had part of Omega unlocked on an alt but never finished it, hit the normal raid roulette for the daily EXP bonus, and got the next fight I had forgotten about. (Then had to skip all of the cutscenes after, because I had just logged in for a few minutes before work and didn't have time to watch it all. Whoops.)

Isn't literally everything in the entire game put on efficient farm mode eventually? Assuming it provides worthwhile loot that is, normal trials generally do not.
In either case as those trials are currently, at least i do not want to touch them with a pole, especially with RNG deciding if your team is good unless you have a premade. The effective one shots /really/ need to be removed as they are the main reason these trials suck imo.

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Originally Posted by LilyPendragon

I think this is already the case, I don't think you can get something you haven't cleared in a roulette.

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You can't get something you haven't unlocked but you can get something you haven't done yet. Normal Raid roulette has surprised me more than once with this on an alt. Unlocked stuff intending to do it later and hello.

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

Honestly, with how twitchy in reflexes things have gotten..... I don't understand how some people could even play this game. Maybe I am just old. But I am married to someone with MS and this expansion makes me think there is no way I would recommend this game to someone with any kind of motor control issue. It's a shame, because the story is so good.

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This is just silly. While I agree that recommending a game with mechanics that require quick responses and semi-fine control would be a bad idea...this idea that you are expected to be perfect is just silly. Not to mention I've played with people that only have one hand or have another disability with fine motor control and none of those people have ever said the game was too hard for them. If anything it's usually still too easy but they like it that way.

As a non-disabled person I get hit by mechanics ALLLL the time. And I'm usually the healer! Not only am I constantly having to heal myself due to my mistakes, but I'm often healing most of the party as well who also didn't dodge mechanics.

The mechanics that require perfection are usually the most forgiving ones around that give you plenty of time to move. If you fail to do so, that's not a matter of you lacking fine motor skills. It's a matter of you simply not paying attention.

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Originally Posted by LilyPendragon

I think this is already the case, I don't think you can get something you haven't cleared in a roulette.

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I believe the only exception to this is the expert roulette. Other than that, if you have unlocked it, you can get it via roulette.

Half of my omega normal raid clears are from first time clears I get via roulette lol.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

I'm sure they'll get toned down eventually... But for now... If you're level 80-90 and still new then there's a huge problem.

Maybe... Maybe less people should use level skips and learn their jobs first?

Sages and Reapers I give a pass. People are still trying to figure them out fully. Summoner and Monk need re-learning too, I guess.

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A bit of a pass. Keep in mind to unlock any of that you still need a job at 70, and so you're not new.

Avoiding spoilers but the MSQ trials in this expansion are very significant to the story overall. 8 years of story culminating into these encounters.

Do you honestly think they should be THAT easy? I personally didn't find them difficult. Maybe a bit more difficult than previous story trials (which really just means you might wipe a couple times).

I think it would be worse if they were any easier. It would diminish their importance.

The only mandatory MSQ trial that was even remotely "hard" was the King Moogle Mog one, and that was simply because the game didn't indicate that there was a certain kill order so unless someone with prior knowledge marked them before hand, you could easily wipe and not understand why. All of the other trials do a good job explaining their mechanics ingame and the mechanics are usually forgiving, with you being able to soak several hits and still go on.

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MTQcapture for all the guides :3