4.2 Housing Update

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

They need to lose their additional houses. This rule is fantastic, however it needs to be applied retroactively otherwise it's a hollow gesture. Now obviously, let them select the house they want to keep and give them a full 100% refund of all their gil and items but they need to lose any other houses they own.

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You people make me laugh. Why should I lose my additional houses when i obviously didnt break a single rule? Please explain that to me.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

You people make me laugh. Why should I lose my additional houses when i obviously didnt break a single rule? Please explain that to me.

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Somehow taking away houses means a fix the housing shortage even though the numbers don't come close to working in their favor. Facts like the Devs deliberately designing personal housing to work the way they did and that housing owners haven't actually broken any rules or done anything wrong is irrelevant to them.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

Facts like the Devs deliberately designing personal housing to work the way they did and that housing owners haven't actually broken any rules or done anything wrong is irrelevant to them.

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And there's absolutely no way SE could compensate for time/effort/money spent on furniture. Even if the person got to keep the furniture they can't sell it (binded), likely wouldn't have inventory space to hold it and wouldn't have a house to store it in.

Better to just leave the people alone who did nothing wrong, they can't buy any additional plots, only lose them due to inactivity over time.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

And there's absolutely no way SE could compensate for time/effort/money spent on furniture. Even if the person got to keep the furniture they can't sell it (binded), likely wouldn't have inventory space to hold it and wouldn't have a house to store it in.

Better to just leave the people alone who did nothing wrong, they can't buy any additional plots, only lose them due to inactivity over time.

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True neil, there is no way to compensate for item cost and loss. It is SE's shoddy housing delivery system in the first place that is to blame. I am hoping most people get a house after 4.2 and there is no monkey biz with quick-made FC spam to buy. I would be curious to see how many FCs have been made since they released this info and how many more before 4.2 arrives.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

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The housing system the way it is currently designed will never satisfy the player base.

Even if there were enough houses that everyone could have 2 houses per account, you would then have people bickering about how X player has a large mansion and they "never decorate it enough" or that "it's private and not FC, only FCs should own large houses!".

SE needs to stop adding wards and just work on giving every player access to instanced housing. Convert apartments into houses with yards or give people yards via the rooftop of the apartment building if they want to keep in lore with apartment buildings.

The current housing system is crap and no amount of rules will fix it.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Personally I always think that's it's unfair to hold to them what they wrote back in that live letter. That was said over a month before they even released housing and two years before they actually bought in reclamation of inactive housing.

I'm sure at the time they said that they meant it, but 2 years later it seems that wasn't possible any more (and it probably didn't help that a lot of the community were actually demanding that they added in demolition because they didn't like all the unused houses sat around).

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Oh, I agree that we should not hold them to that quote. In fact, I was purposely using that statement as an immediate example of things can and do change. I was not at all saying I agree or disagree with it.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

You people make me laugh. Why should I lose my additional houses when i obviously didnt break a single rule? Please explain that to me.

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If you go to a party with a buffet, and then eat the whole thing, you haven't broken any rules. After all, the point of a buffet is to eat as much as you want, right? That doesn't change the fact that the rest of the party goers are sad, because they didn't get any food. You knew they were there, and you ate all of the food anyway, even though you knew they'd like some, too.

No rules have been broken, but you are still a bad person for doing it. You've exploited a system's flaws for personal gain at the expense of others. Is it the fault of the system, or the fault of the exploiters? Yes, to both.

i have houses on 2 alts, bought because the plots were just sitting there and i had extra gil at the time. I have enjoyed decorating them and i do use them as crating locations for my alts to this day. I would relinquish them in a heartbeat if there was a good mechanism to do so, since i do feel bad for those who cannot enjoy housing due to the shortage. Unfortunately there is no mechanism to relinquish a house that is reasonable. If they could just make the same process that manages refunds, and items for demolished houses kick in for relinquished houses you would see folks relinquishing voluntarily. At least I would.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

No rules have been broken, but you are still a bad person for doing it. You've exploited a system's flaws for personal gain at the expense of others. Is it the fault of the system, or the fault of the exploiters? Yes, to both.

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They...are bad person because they purchased something in a videogame? Wow. This is some statement right here.

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Originally Posted by Aniise

They...are bad person because they purchased something in a videogame? Wow. This is some statement right here.

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Oh it's in season to vilify people with multiples at the moment.