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    4.2 Housing Update





    Anyone happen to know if they will be removing houses from those currently already own more then one plot per server? I hope not, that would suck. Oops did not mean to make a new thread, meant to post in the current one. Does anyone happen to know of a way to delete threads.

    Edit: It doesn't matter if you're FC Master or not, once you entered FC, you're bounded with that rule.

    Seems the only fair thing to do is grandfather people into the new system since from what I can tell no rules were broken when it came to getting more then one plot. Granted I do stand to lose a lot if they do not grandfather people into the new system since my FC and myself do own half a ward between all of us. We helped each other create and level up one man free company's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Anyone happen to know if they will be removing houses from those currently already own more then one plot per server?
    Removing housing from a current paying customer who broke no rules at the point they purchased?

    No I think not. The restriction will be on purchase so they can't buy any more and overtime as they either give up or get demolished they'll go back into the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Removing housing from a currently playing customer who broke no rules at the point they purchased?

    No I think not :P
    You realize that it's rules that they create and they can change it at any time? We'll see more information with that new housing site they was talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maoska View Post
    You realize that it's rules that they create and they can change it at any time? We'll see more information with that new housing site they was talking about.
    Of course, but how exactly could they possibly compensate? The plot price is easy, but the time/effort/money spent on decorating isn't possible to determine and would vary per person (some people craft themselves, others buy from marketboard, etc.) The PR backlash they'd risk, it's not worth it. Considerably easier to just leave be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Of course, but how exactly could they possibly compensate? The plot price is easy, but the time/effort/money spent on decorating isn't possible to determine and would vary per person (some people craft themselves, others buy from marketboard, etc.) The PR backlash they'd risk, it's not worth it. Considerably easier to just leave be.
    They're probably going to compensate them with the price of the house and plot, plus imho a decent % more to compensate for furnishings and options that are destroyed or can't be reclaimed. It's just not fair for anyone to own more than 1 person and 1 FC house in a game where there's 72k plots for 300k accounts.

    They'll likely let every multiple house owner pick which house(s) they will keep.

    If they don't, the change was not actually a change.

    EDIT: It would be really cool if they made all furnishings that become soulbound when placed unsoulbound when houses are relinquished like this, so you could potentially turn some profit on top of it. Though it shouldn't apply to things that are soulbound the moment they are acquired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    It's just not fair for anyone to own more than 1 person and 1 FC house in a game where there's 72k plots for 300k accounts.
    I think your math is a bit wrong there.

    30 plots per wards, 2 subdivisions, 18 wards, 4 housing areas, 66 servers.

    That's 285,120

    4.2 will be adding 95,040 houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Of course, but how exactly could they possibly compensate? The plot price is easy, but the time/effort/money spent on decorating isn't possible to determine and would vary per person (some people craft themselves, others buy from marketboard, etc.) The PR backlash they'd risk, it's not worth it. Considerably easier to just leave be.
    Realistically, the PR would likely be just as bad if they just left it be.

    They make the change and grandfather people in but then once all the plots sell out, the complaints start up again about those who got grandfathered in particularly because at this point those people have a benefit that no one else can replicate.

    OR

    They make the change and don't grandfather people in, you have those people get the pick of their current houses. They feel bad but with the limitations noted, at a minimum for every individual impacted, four people are happier cause their fc now has a house and those are four unique accounts per world. For those that have like 16 houses, that's potentially 56 people.

    It's literally a group being unhappy and a larger group being happy given the combination of new and freed up plots. Maybe the smaller group is more vocal, but it's not unrealistic to expect that the good pr from the larger group will overwhelm the negative from the smaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Removing housing from a current paying customer who broke no rules at the point they purchased?

    No I think not. The restriction will be on purchase so they can't buy any more and overtime as they either give up or get demolished they'll go back into the system.
    Well, even if someone who has multiple homes is forced to give up some, they won't end up homeless (unlike the Korean server merge fiasco). I would very much like SE to mandate the one personal, one fc house per account to everyone come 4.2. Sure, there might be initial backlash from the hoarders, but the community as a whole will benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissandra View Post
    Well, even if someone who has multiple homes is forced to give up some, they won't end up homeless (unlike the Korean server merge fiasco). I would very much like SE to mandate the one personal, one fc house per account to everyone come 4.2. Sure, there might be initial backlash from the hoarders, but the community as a whole will benefit.
    I agree with Lissandra. Leaving people with houses at alts and create an limitation for anyone else is even more unfair. That would be create even more bad reaction from players. If they want to be fair in this matter, they should consider everyone to have the same options regarding owning a plot. I more surprised about the limitation in buying personal housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissandra View Post
    Well, even if someone who has multiple homes is forced to give up some, they won't end up homeless (unlike the Korean server merge fiasco). I would very much like SE to mandate the one personal, one fc house per account to everyone come 4.2. Sure, there might be initial backlash from the hoarders, but the community as a whole will benefit.
    I would expect them to scream the loudest.

    I do like that SE is actually being reasonable here.
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