Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

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Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami

Yeah the bad guy is the one protecting the weak and the deceived one are the troublemakers. Btw the purpose of my suggestion is not to make people suffer.

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Bro you literally used the words, "they will suffer." I didn't just pull that out of nowhere. You said it.

No one in this game is weak or decieved. Like, the hell are you huffing? You're not "protecting" anyone. You're just coming up with weird, frankly extreme, punishments to a non issue. You know WoW's leaving penalty is actually less than ffxiv's? And they don't have these weird discussions about it on their forums.

But, if you're gonna make P5 references, you're probably closer to the Moon confidant and his story line until like... rank 8.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

You're just coming up with weird, frankly extreme, punishments to a non issue.

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Ok so you are telling me that the people who were left behind didn't suffer anything. And when I put the dodger in the same situation you are calling it a weird, frankly extreme, punishment?
Sorry my mind is made of logic I can't agree with that.

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Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami

Ok so you are telling me that the people who were left behind didn't suffer anything. And when I put the dodger in the same situation you are calling it a weird, frankly extreme, punishment?
Sorry my mind is made of logic I can't agree with that.

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The people left behind suffered a queue and then possibly a requeue. You have suggested:

1. A ban (this is the funniest one so it had to be first)

2. Drawing the same instance from the roulette until you complete it, which depending on the instance could be impossible

3. Drawing that same instance and instead of pulling other people from the roulette in question, draw people who are specifically queueing for the instance in question. Which, again could make clearing that instance impossible.

So yes I'd call all those extreme compared to the current system which puts the leaver in the same situation as those left behind. lmao. also good job, avoiding every other thing in my post.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

1. A ban

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You ommited of 90 minutes. I don't spend time on it because I understood nobody would agree to that.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

2. Drawing the same instance until you complete it, which depending on the instance could be impossible

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Fine tuning is certainly required. Something like a reset at the end of the day.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

3. snip

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If you are talking about the "I want to leave" you misunderstood it. This does not impact negatively anybody. That's what is good about that suggestion. It just gives the people who wants to leave the opportunity to do it without bothering his teammates. If the dodger don't care he can act as before.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

good job, avoiding every other thing in my post.

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Sorry I didn't complete the moon confident. And I don't care about WoW.

As you can see, I am pro-active and I am evolving in my reflection :-)

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Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami

You ommited of 90 minutes.

If you are talking about the "I want to leave" you misunderstood it.

And I don't care about WoW.

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90 minutes is irrelevant. It could be for five minutes and there'd be no difference. A ban is a ban.

I'm not talking about the "I want to leave" because we already have that lmao. It's the "leave" button. I'm talking about your follow up to your "locked into the instance idea" when someone else told you why they disagreed. That is indeed the nonsense you spouted to them in response.

You don't need to care about WoW to understand the point I'm making. Which is that people taking a leave penalty because they need to or want to leave is a non issue.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

I'm not talking about the "I want to leave" because we already have that lmao. It's the "leave" button.

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This is totally different since you leave only once the group has found a replacement. It's a possibility to act more friendly.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

I'm talking about your follow up to your "locked into the instance idea" when someone else told you why they disagreed. That is indeed the nonsense you spouted to them in response.

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Please quote me, because I don't undrestand and want to understand.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

You don't need to care about WoW to understand the point I'm making. Which is that people taking a leave penalty because they need to or want to leave is a non issue.

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The title of the topic is "Please-do-something-about-mentor-roulette-instant-leaves" so a at least one guy care about it. Maybe you don't, maybe wow players don't, but he does. And given the length of the topic, he's not alone.

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Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami

If you really want me to shot down this argument, it should be easy for SE to only group a dodger with a player who didn't tag on roulette but directly selected the mission.

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Here's your quote. So how fucked would this be if my mentor roulette gave me Shiva Ex and I had to leave to do something? Whelp, guess I'll never be able to do mentor roulette again lmao.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

Here's your quote. So how fucked would this be if my mentor roulette gave me Shiva Ex and I had to leave to do something? Whelp, guess I'll never be able to do mentor roulette again lmao.

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Yeah I agree with you, this requiers fine tuning. Like the daily reset as suggested in my previous post.

I don't have the ultimate solution, I am only throwing ideas. Sadly the community spends more time destroying them than looking to improve them.

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Originally Posted by Moshimoshikami

I don't have the ultimate solution, I am only throwing ideas. Sadly the community spends more time destroying them than looking to improve them.

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People shoot down your suggestions because they're fine with the current system in place. A person leaves, they cannot even queue for anything for 30 minutes. Because I am an adult, I accept this and ask around in linkshells and FC chat, leave, or I wait for another pug to queue in progress, and don't whine about someone else doing whatever they want with their own time.


Also, criticizing ideas and thoughts is how they grow. "I agree," being said over and over again contributes nothing to a discussion.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

Because I am an adult

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

criticizing ideas and thoughts is how they grow. "I agree," being said over and over again contributes nothing to a discussion.

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Don't talk to me about adulthood and how to have a discussion. Looking at people almightly, calling them "bro", telling them "good job" and "lmao" is neither acting as an adult or contributing to a discussion.

Nothing will come out of this topic so I am leaving here.