Are role actions a nerf?

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Originally Posted by Felis

You are in a 8 man party and healer #2 cast Protect
Do you really need Protect too, or would you equip something else?

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I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

this is how I feel too, I find the idea of swapping them out the way they showed to be a big pain in the !@#$. they should have a seperate hot window for that or a way to macro hotswap them and make it so that those skills always swap the slot they take on your hotbar

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I am not trying to be rude, honestly, but how can something that takes a few seconds be a big pain in the ass? Like... I get that you don't want to do it and that is fair, but come on now, aren't we being a little slightly over the top here?

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

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We already have seen these over bad choice of cross-class skills, especially at low levels. All this will do is add WHM to the target list.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

I'm now waiting for the first "healer kicked because bad choice of role skills" thread coming after the expansion.

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I'm actually waiting for the first "kicked because I used Rescue" thread. =P

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Originally Posted by Aramina

I am not trying to be rude, honestly, but how can something that takes a few seconds be a big pain in the ass? Like... I get that you don't want to do it and that is fair, but come on now, aren't we being a little slightly over the top here?

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not trying to be rude here but just because you dont find it a pain doesnt change the fact that it is extra steps in a system they claim they are trying to simplify.

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

not trying to be rude here but just because you dont find it a pain doesnt change the fact that it is extra steps in a system they claim they are trying to simplify.

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If it makes you feel any better about it, they took out the cooldown restrictions on changing jobs in the field. Maybe they took it out for changing skills too?

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

not trying to be rude here but just because you dont find it a pain doesnt change the fact that it is extra steps in a system they claim they are trying to simplify.

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Way to not answer, but ok. :)

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Originally Posted by Aramina

I am not trying to be rude, honestly, but how can something that takes a few seconds be a big pain in the ass? Like... I get that you don't want to do it and that is fair, but come on now, aren't we being a little slightly over the top here?

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It's not a few seconds if I'm doing it every day for the next 4 years.

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

not trying to be rude here but just because you dont find it a pain doesnt change the fact that it is extra steps in a system they claim they are trying to simplify.

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To add on to this. You'd have to change your hotbar, too, as once a skill you had on the previous cross-role selection is replaced it'll serve no purpose being on your current hotbar - meaning you'd then have to either toggle to a different saved hotbar or manually replace a skill(s) every time.

So, a whole bunch of swapping around things; perhaps even numerous times in an instance if you wish to be optimal for each encounter and boss. People are already impatient and quick to rile up... this will only give them another reason; also I can't say I'll be too pleased with having to wait for a guy to do this and that, nor doing it myself. Whole bunch of unwanted and unnecessary tedium.

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Originally Posted by AstralKaos

To add on to this. You'd have to change your hotbar, too, as once a skill you had on the previous cross-role selection is replaced it'll serve no purpose being on .

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Exactly if Im tankin which is mostly how I do dungeons etc, I am waiting on protect then im off to pull mobs and what about those instances where ur waiting on protect where as every healer had it pretty much for every dungeon. Now a healer may have to explain why they dont have protect now , like this system to me is pretty much the most mad Ive been at the devs sense Ive been playing the game. It was uncalled for all they had to do was not make it mandatory for people to level jobs they didnt want for cross skills now we have a trash system that takes alot of damage from jobs and alot of mitigation as well.

nobody wants to wait for someone to rearrange their stuff if anything thats the first sign of a bad dungeon run and is very annoying when someone as soon as they enter the instance says hold on a second. People dont even wana wait for new players to which like 3 mins of cut scenes u think they gona wana wait on this stuff. Not you of course but the people in this thread surely must of had some of the most pleasant instances with some of the most patient people in gaming that def hasnt been my experience