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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Can you imagine the backlash if they'd mention that we'd receive three new expert dungeons for a patch, but they ended up releasing only two and never bothered saying anything until the day of? That's, from what I see, essentially happened in regards to the pricing of personal houses. Not that prices are the big issue here, but it really leaves room for doubt when it comes to what to expect from when a developer makes a post. In the end, you want some sort of hype so players have something to look forward to, as well as word-of-mouth to sell the game.

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I do see where you're coming from, but I think the dungeon example is not up to par. Simply because they've been setting a precedence of releasing three new expert dungeons for the last 3 patches now. However, I do understand and agree with your example, people would be let down or at least more reluctant to believe things he'd say.

The way I see it, he left the interpretation of personal housing pretty open ended and didn't do his due diligence in seeing just how important and just how big personal housing would be for the community. It was a large ball to drop, and will probably be the largest of his FFXIV career in this post-ARR world. We all know that he and his team climbed a hell of a mountain to even revive FFXIV, but the community doesn't want to see them rest on their proverbial laurels because of it.

PAtch 2.4 looks very exciting but we won't know ANYTHING about it until the patch notes are out!

kinda don't like that female ninjas get some off color tights instead of hakama :/

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Originally Posted by Zaero

What I'm looking forward to in 2.4: The next big issue that will trump the housing issue.

That way, people can stop whining.

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no, they'll still whine. the only thing that will change is what they whine about.

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Originally Posted by melflomil

Fenrir is a dungeon boss. Oh o. Not a lot people are going to be pleased with that.

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Nope.. SO far both possible Dark based Primals are now scraped. Fenrir was a powerful one at that, but we get this...

Who's next on the waterd down list, alexander?

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Originally Posted by Mjytresz

Does anyone else find it amusing that this 15 page thread is nearly 12 pages of complaining over optional housing instead of actual content/balance?
Fucking mindblowing.

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I'm very lost by that so yes..

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Originally Posted by Volcano

Nope.. SO far both possible Dark based Primals are now scraped. Fenrir was a powerful one at that, but we get this...

Who's next on the waterd down list, alexander?

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In Final Fantasy as a whole Fenrir really isn't that powerful. He was in XI, but that's about it. In FFVI he was barely important and cast shadows on the party. In IX he was just another summon. It was only XI where Fenrir had a role of being powerful. While it may be disappointing to some that he isn't holding the same role as he did in XI, he really hasn't been a consistently powerful Eidolon/Esper/Summon, etc and there's no reason to believe that he would necessarily be a mighty Primal.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

In Final Fantasy as a whole Fenrir really isn't that powerful. He was in XI, but that's about it. In FFVI he was barely important and cast shadows on the party. In IX he was just another summon. It was only XI where Fenrir had a role of being powerful. While it may be disappointing to some that he isn't holding the same role as he did in XI, he really hasn't been a consistently powerful Eidolon/Esper/Summon, etc and there's no reason to believe that he would necessarily be a mighty Primal.

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I actually was talking about him from XI, SE has a lot of different summon entities they don't even include.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

In Final Fantasy as a whole Fenrir really isn't that powerful. He was in XI, but that's about it. In FFVI he was barely important and cast shadows on the party. In IX he was just another summon. It was only XI where Fenrir had a role of being powerful. While it may be disappointing to some that he isn't holding the same role as he did in XI, he really hasn't been a consistently powerful Eidolon/Esper/Summon, etc and there's no reason to believe that he would necessarily be a mighty Primal.

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To be fair, neither has Titan nor Ifrit nor Leviathan. Carbuncle has always been a far more useful and "powerful" summon, either because of the reflect trivializing some "hard bosses" or the regen effect. It wasn't, again, until XI did certain summons actually get a "purpose" and "Power", like Garuda for example.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

To be fair, neither has Titan nor Ifrit nor Leviathan. Carbuncle has always been a far more useful and "powerful" summon, either because of the reflect trivializing some "hard bosses" or the regen effect. It wasn't, again, until XI did certain summons actually get a "purpose" and "Power", like Garuda for example.

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I don't disagree, it's just that people specifically get crazy about Fenrir because of FFXI and make claims that he should rightfully be a Primal because of his history. He isn't any more important than most other summons in FF history, in fact he is one of the least consistent.

Regardless of power, Ifrit, Titan, Leviathan, Ramuh and Shiva have all had a much more consistent presence in the Final Fantasy series and stand as more iconic creatures. Garuda is the odd-bird-out.

Personally I love Fenrir aesthetically and would love to see him as a Primal, but I'm not upset that he is a boss, because there's not necessarily a reason he should be more than that.