Patch 2.2: Let's Copy the Worst Practice of MMOs From the Last 10 Years...

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Originally Posted by zeroumus

imo, the player definition of an MMO requires a sandbox. this game certainly does not have a sand box, it has rails, is too structured, and is really a feeding bucket for cattle. As gamers, we really need to tell the industry that this is not an MMO.

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If the majority of people 'as gamers' didn't want MMOs to be like this they wouldn't be.

my sub recently renewed (3 months) i'll see what 2.2 has to offer and if its not for me Then i'll plain unsub GG and move on

Vote with your wallet guys

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100

so the majority would agree with this list then right? This is clearly what the majority wants right?

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Originally Posted by zeroumus

imo, the player definition of an MMO requires a sandbox. this game certainly does not have a sand box, it has rails, is too structured, and is really a feeding bucket for cattle. As gamers, we really need to tell the industry that this is not an MMO.

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In the old days there were hundreds of thousands of gamers- now there are tens of millions. Tens of millions of mediocre people wanting a game they can jump around putting other people down and calling themselves "hard core" or "uber".... games used to be complex and played by "nerds"... now they are electronic babysitters.

The OP has created a new thread to discuss these issues, please use it going forward
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...g-Away-Content

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

In the old days there were hundreds of thousands of gamers- now there are tens of millions. Tens of millions of mediocre people wanting a game they can jump around putting other people down and calling themselves "hard core" or "uber".... games used to be complex and played by "nerds"... now they are electronic babysitters.

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Deal with it, non-bro. Video games aren't exclusively the domain of 35 year old neckbeards living in their mothers' basements anymore. SE and every other company that makes MMOs are in the business to make money and they can't do that if they cater to the few dozen "hardcore nerd" people left who prefer the horizontal progression of dead MMOs like SWG and FFXI. Oh and FFXI didn't even have horizontal progression.

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Originally Posted by nocturnal84

It's been done before in ff11 and that game had close to 500 k subscribers for 10 years and was SE's largest money maker of all time and you're acting like it some kind of amazingly stupid way of thinking that's beyond comprehension.

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Yeah let's compare FFXI shall we? where everyone looks the same and wears the same gear for years and years with only slight upgrades

no thanks... go play FFXI if you think yearly progression is a bad idea.

WoW doesn't have anywhere near the amount hateful, argumentative crybabies that this game does....... and it's supposed to be the kiddie game full of crybabies and elitists, right?

Sure. Carry on.

SE fanboi community is far and away the worst community in the history of games. All a bunch of whining, entitled asshats. People will whine that the "enititled bads" are getting the benefits of a content nerf, all while saying they are "entitled" to something to prove they cleared content when it was hard? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Not everything gives you a gold star. Not every player gets a trophy. There was a time that personal accomplishment was enough to be proud of, now it's all about "LOOK AT MY POKEMANS, LOOK AT THEM!!!11"

I imagine the whiners here are the ones that grew up getting a prize in everything they did, so they didn't feel left out. Yay, you won the "Most glitter used in a costume" award! Congratulations on being mediocre!

EDIT: Out of the 20 threads on the 1st page, 10 of them are some form of complaining about something, and the other 10 are about other topics. Seems like people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. I don't understand how all of these people could be so distraught at the game and continue to play it. If I don't like a game, I stop playing it. I don't go to the forums and cry about it ad nauseum, because I realize that it isn't worth it. I would rather spend my time and energy finding/playing a game I do like, instead of complaining forever about a game that is obviously not for me. Why are people such gluttons for punishment? Why is this concept apparently so hard to grasp? The world may never know.

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Originally Posted by RoninDarkchild

Why are you people surprised???? They said this since day one!!!! New content will be hard, and they will nerf OLD content as the move on.... Why should i care if old content is easier for other players while I have moved on???? People are always so concerned about what someone ELSE is doing..

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A thousand times this. It's a lot like people complaining about removing caps from CoP.

I wonder why the OP seems to think that unless others know of his accomplishment, it is diminished in some fashion?