Hamlet defense feedback from a top 20 provisioner: Critical problems and solutions

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no, the drops are split(from the chest)

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How would you know? You never see an undistributed list of drops. You just see so and so's loot list now contains <blah>.

The DoW/DoM items come from the chest (Assumption Police: this may be a MASSIVE assumption, but not really). The chest drops are split among the parties loot list and can be given to another member via loot list. The DoH/DoL items are from the captain for being a top20 provisioner. These items go straight into your inventory (like Ifrit).

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

The DoW/DoM items come from the chest (Assumption Police: this may be a MASSIVE assumption, but not really). The chest drops are split among the parties loot list and can be given to another member via loot list. The DoH/DoL items are from the captain for being a top20 provisioner. These items go straight into your inventory (like Ifrit).

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its already been confirmed drops from chest are the combat armors

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

its already been confirmed drops from chest are the combat armors

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Haha I know, I was making a joke . . . I failed.

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The chest drops are split among the parties loot list and can be given to another member via loot list.

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Again, I have yet to see any evidence that the loot is one pool that's immediately divvied up at random. I think each person's loot list is populated seperately.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Again, I have yet to see any evidence that the loot is one pool that's immediately divvied up at random. I think each person's loot list is populated seperately.

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proof = people who have actualy gotten drops from the chests who have told us thats how it works

you need to read back through some of these threads and see that


if a chest has to be touched by everyone(ifrit, moogle) then its seperate drops
if 1 person opens it, and its opened for everyone, thats a group pool

And the captain rewards are per person, you only get if you talk to the captain after the battle ends. (Exclusive to top 20 provisioners) --completely independant of the chest.

It is even missable, if you let the 5 minute timer run down after completing a hamlet defense, before talking to the captain.

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Originally Posted by Sigmakan

For the Hamlet Defense on Friday night (did ~15 runs), got 2 Top20 drops, and 1 Chest drop. Its the first chest drop Ive seen out of the 25+ runs Ive done.

Would like to see the chest drops go from 1% to 5%. Not sure what to do about provisioner drops, making the provisioner participate 10-20 hamlet runs to get their return on investment seems a bit extreme.

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Hi Signakan,

Congrats! :)

The drop rate sounds pretty low still. I wonder how any players outside the Top 20 would feel trying Hamlet Defense with the current drop rates?

I just fear it'll become a "Need a Top 20 or forget it"-type mentality soon with the current balance.

Even if SE hoped that, say, "Level 5" would have much better drop rates, if they keep Level 1 and 2 at the current rates, how many people would even bother to try it going forward?

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi Signakan,

Congrats! :)

The drop rate sounds pretty low still. I wonder how any players outside the Top 20 would feel trying Hamlet Defense with the current drop rates?

I just fear it'll become a "Need a Top 20 or forget it"-type mentality soon with the current balance.

Even if SE hoped that, say, "Level 5" would have much better drop rates, if they keep Level 1 and 2 at the current rates, how many people would even bother to try it going forward?

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players in my shell dont mind at all, we got about 20-30 people who will go just for the sake of going cuz they enjoy it, and if we get a drop thatl be awesome too but its not the end all


but alot dont want to touch it cuz they dont like the drops, but these same people will do 500 ifrits for a chance at a specific drop they want...

Hi All,

Thanks to Reinheart, it looks like the Dev Team *might* be looking into a Point System for Hamlet Defense. {Yes, please.}

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

こんばんは。
Good Evening,

皆さんより、多くフィードバックを頂いている、
From below two which we received the most feedback on

• ランキング内でも上位と下位で差をつけて欲しい
  Have a difference between higher/lower rank in the ranking (person who's in rank 1 is treated differently than the person who's in rank 20)
• 納品ポイントに応じて、何かしらメリットを設けてほしい
  Want some kind of merit to be placed for supply points.

上記2点について、現在開発チームで対応の検討を進めています。
対応内容などの詳細については、決まり次第あらためてお伝えします。
For above two the dev team is currently looking into it.
Will let you know the details once it is confirmed.

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But as Signakan posted, I don't agree with them developing *even more* difference / loot pools(?) between Rank 1 and Rank 20.

That *isn't* the problem: It's the horrible difference between making the Top 20 and *not* making it (the majority of the server), and how there's no incentive to even try Hamlet Defense unless you make it in the Top 20.

Here's to hoping we get some real, meaningful changes for the better, because I really enjoy Hamlet Defense (from an idea point of view). :)