Toxic WHM Glare spammers

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Originally Posted by Rae88

I met someone who wouldn't heal me yesterday. They were a scholar. Left me at 20% and I died to the next raid wide. Rezzed but wouldn't heal died again to the next raidwide. What class is your avatar? Scholar? Oh no, don't do that, my latest bad personal experience has made me biased against ALL scholars. Broiling away and not healing or shielding, only caring about their DPS.

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SCH really has very large DPS windows, it is a pity that this player does not know how to use them well. And yes, I believe that you could have met 80% of bad SCHs, cause good SCHs even fewer than good WHMs. Not sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by RajNish

SCH really has very large DPS windows, it is a pity that this player does not know how to use them well. And yes, I believe that you could have met 80% of bad SCHs, cause good SCHs even fewer than good WHMs. Not sarcasm.

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You wanna answer any actual questions or critique? Or are you just going to keep only replying to sarcasm?

Really shows the character of the person behind the keyboard. I'm unimpressed.

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Originally Posted by RajNish

Yep, it was just one of an endless army of green dps.

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Fair enough. I notice you've hidden your character on a website we won't name here. Being a competent Savage SCH, I doubt you have anything to hide. A quick glance would be enough to see that at least a number of your runs were with glarebots and back your claim up.

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Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

You wanna answer any actual questions or critique? Or are you just going to keep only replying to sarcasm?

Really shows the character of the person behind the keyboard. I'm unimpressed.

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If he did that, then it'd mean he had a genuine argument. As opposed to being evasive. At this point I would say better cease engaging. When people start using disingenuous methods to try and win an argument then you know they're not interested in facts or reality but in being right, by which point they inevitably just waste your time with their mental gymnastics.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Fair enough. I notice you've hidden your character on a website we won't name here. Being a competent Savage SCH, I doubt you have anything to hide. A quick glance would be enough to see that at least a number of your runs were with glarebots and back your claim up.

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My profile is open and can be easily viewed on Lodestone. What site are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by RajNish

My profile is open and can be easily viewed on Lodestone. What site are you talking about?

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Oh look, more intellectual dishonesty! Imagine my shock.

Because, let's all be very clear, in order to hide his character on that website OP has to be aware of that website. He's also aware it can't be mentioned here because if someone directly does he'll be happy to report them.

I'm genuinely surprised an FC member showed up to white knight this behavior. Were this being done by someone in my FC they'd be deservedly kicked to the curb.

It's okay, even without access to the forbidden website I can confidently say I'm sure he's a greyt sch.

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Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

I just don't like people spreading misinformation on this forum which is often visited by new players.

Saying "glare-spamming WHMs" as if it's a bad thing makes it seem like you shouldn't be spamming Glare as a WHM... this is false. You very much should be.

I am a Glare-spamming WHM and I'm proud of it. I mean, in actuality I'm more of a Malefic-spamming AST but the principal is still the same.

Stop discouraging people from playing correctly. It's bad.

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Go read my position on this on page 4, I'm not gonna type it in again.

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Originally Posted by Hatfright

Read again. I have a problem with people not using anything on huge raidwides and not willing to cover some mistakes for others in order for everyone to succeed and be done with the fight quickly cuz of their "the other one will do it" mentality. I wiped to many times on Hades doom phase exactly cuz of WHMs doing nothing but glares, despite their ability to heal that very quickly. I'm maybe wearing glasses, but I'm not blind, I see if there's an ODCD popping off or not.
If you know your job well and act like it, I have no problems with you. If you preffer to let others do all the work and spam 1 button no matter what — get out of my group, you're not welcomed here. As far as I know, difference in playstyles is a legit reason for kick. =)

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Originally Posted by Hatfright

Go read my position on this on page 4, I'm not gonna type it in again.

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Your opinion is ill-informed and biased.

"I saw this thing in this fight" is not evidence of any specific problem. It's also not a reason to act as if it was a good idea for your buddy to post such a misleading and, to borrow a word you people love, toxic forum post.

If you're unable to dps and cover the healing necessary for frankly basically all of hades with ease at this point you've got no place farming an EX primal. Opportunity cost is also a thing - if you're at the end of a dps check and both healers are down to their GCD heals the WHM isn't the one you want interrupting their dps. Their Glare is worth more than a Malefic or Broil.

I deal with this all the time as an AST. As the weakest damage filler job I will happily use whatever GCD heals I need to in order to keep the party up as long as I see a WHM doing things like popping Temperance, Asylum and the like.

Keep Glaring WHMs, don't let people who can't do math get to you.

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Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare

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I mean, I have a predujice against WHMs at this point in time, which I stated in my very firts post in this topic. I don't know what are you trying to accoplish tellin me that I have one again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cuz, yeah, majority of bad healers I've met in my playtime were WHMs, nothing you can do about that, I'm afraid.
Also, look a fun police, telling people if they should or shouldn't run certain content! Cute.

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Originally Posted by Hatfright

I mean, I have a predujice against WHMs at this point in time, which I stated in my very firts post in this topic. I don't know what are you trying to accoplish tellin me that I have one again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cuz, yeah, majority of bad healers I've met in my playtime were WHMs, nothing you can do about that, I'm afraid.
Also, look a fun police, telling people if they should or shouldn't run certain content! Cute.

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If you're incompetent you should study up and learn how your job works before entering any content with an enrage.

That isn't a hot take. It isn't being the fun police. It's just being considerate.

I could care less about your unfounded WHM prejudices, you're only hurting yourselves.