SE Please add jump and swiming

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

That is because you ASSUME that jumping will be NEEDED to play the game or certain aspects but that's only you assuming. Do other mmos force you to use it? I think not.

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Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

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Originally Posted by irongripz

not having those makes that car a unique piece of crap that i wouldn't buy lol

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exactly everyone's first impression of FFXIV when it came out and the reason behind it's 5/10 and lower scores. :)

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Originally Posted by Jynx

No it means I wont be able to go to the playground if I don't use that kind of ball.

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you can go to the play ground, you just don't want to play with the ball. no one is keeping you from playing with it besides yourself.

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Originally Posted by Shipp

No, it means you simply don't play with that ball at the playground, and that analogy doesn't even work for MMOs. The ball analogy did, your branch veering off the beaten path didn't.

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So because I don't want to jump I should be exempt from a majority of the game? From exploration? Boss fights?

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

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Seriously, go on youtube... google every MMO that uses jump followed by the words "gameplay" and then you will have all your answers.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

So because I don't want to jump I should be exempt from a majority of the game? From exploration? Boss fights?

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As far as this debate is going right now, the majority is us and the minority is you so yes... majority wins!

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

As far as this debate is going right now, the majority is us and the minority is you so yes... majority wins!

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Ok enjoy your jumps when they implemented and I'll begrudingly use them because I want to actually play the game.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

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Because some people want a freaking jump button. Jesus, it's like talking to a brick wall in here. Here's the course of events:

You: Why implement jump if it's pointless?
Us: It can have uses for boss mechanics.
You: But I don't want to have to jump, I want tank and spank fights that don't require movement.
Us: Even if jump wasn't used for boss mechanics, some people still like the ability to jump.
You: But it looks stupid and it affects me.
Us: It doesn't affect you because you don't have to do it.
You: But it will affect me because it will be forced on us in endgame mechanics.
Us: It doesn't have to be.
You: Why add it if it's pointless?


You are doing nothing but arguing in circles. It's been explained to you over and over why people want it. You, will never want it. We get it. You're stubborn and obstinate and think jump has nothing to offer in an MMO. We tell you how it can be used in boss fights and then you whine that you don't want to have to use jump in boss fights.

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Originally Posted by Shipp

And that is perfectly fine. However it's pretty selfish to say you don't think it should be in the game due to your perception of it being pointless when other people want it. Adding it takes nothing away from you.

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Oh the sweet, sweet irony.

I'm going to remember this post, Shipp.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

As far as this debate is going right now, the majority is us and the minority is you so yes... majority wins!

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Actually Jump was already confirmed as coming a while ago. It's just further down the pipeline. So this entire "jumping!", "no jumping!" debate is really rather redundant.