So I just came out of a Rabanastre run as an AST and it was horrible.
So in my alliance there were I think 2 newbies (also 3 RDM).
They die to mechanics in Mateus but that's fine, there's a first time for everything.
But here comes Hashmal. This is where things started to go wrong. Some people in all alliances kept staying in the bad stuff like dudes you have seen this mechanic all the time MOVE OUT OF IT ! Also our 3 RDM didn't help with the rezzing at all...
But then...you know what I'll let you see the chat log for yourself.
https://i.imgur.com/XZxUiYV.png
To clarify, during the tower phase with the sand balls, you have a stack mechanic for each alliance and one dude from another alliance was with us and had a stack.
And then as you can see, alliance B thought it would be fun to mock us for something we couldn't prevent.
I ate the 30 minutes penalty gladly because no sir I'm not dealing with that today
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06-24-2018, 05:47 PMAxHell
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06-24-2018, 09:40 PMSannaRIt's not just low level healers. It's Healers from Amdapor Keep Hard to the Vault that also seem to have problems. I had a healer struggle on me taking the 2 birds at the start of Amdapor Keep Hard to the 1st ochu gate blocker before the ochu even spawned more things. Even when i'd just take trash mob packs as they were I'd get healers that would forget to do anything to the point I'd have to use my oh crap button and still not get healed til I'd be taking damage again. Last week was so bad that it made me wish every run that I had been on one of my healers. Even the friend who jump potioned their whm and I forced them to come on a Dusk Vigil run seemed to do better than the ones I had been getting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeka
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06-24-2018, 11:45 PMMaeka
I can understand a lowbie healer "deer in the headlight" act, but c'mon, at Lv50+? *sigh* How did they even GET to 50? I bet they did PotD the whole way or something without ever having to actually be responsible for your team staying alive.
I get that healing is not for everybody and that's fine and all, but seriously if a player can't hack the job, they shouldn't Q up period. I'm not being elitist, but merely advocating that one judge themselves and not ruin 4-7 other players' days by being terrible at something they obviously can't handle.
You don't see me browsing savage raids on PF because I don't think I'd be able to do it and I'm not really "into" it either, so it's okay to not be skilled at a particular job/role. It's not OK to Q up despite not being able to perform good enough to pass the content. -
06-24-2018, 11:59 PMDBriggs304Eh...That sound a little elitist. Just a tad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeka
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06-25-2018, 12:56 AMMaekaLike I said, not elitist at all. Elitism is where a player who has a high amount of skill expects everybody else to perform at their level. Expecting someone to at least perform at a level to at least pass the content reasonably is not Elitism.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBriggs304
For example, if you drive a Ferrari and you show up on the highway expecting everybody to drive at 150MPH+, that's Elitism. However, if you drive on a highway with a 6 cylinder and you get mad at the guy in front of you only driving 35MPH because he's driving a 1950s 4-cylinder car that can't go any faster than that, that's not elitism; the guy has a car that's barely able to run and is holding everybody back. -
06-25-2018, 05:35 AMMavriasNew healers still gotta get a chance to learn though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeka
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06-25-2018, 06:05 AMMicahZerrshiaBy the time you are level 50, as they pointed out earlier, you are no longer "new". Heck by the time you are 40 you are not new. I understand everyone has a learning curve but if you don't know your job by the time you are 50 levels in the fault does not lie in everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrias
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06-25-2018, 06:09 AMMavriasJump potions are a thing, palace of the dead is a thing, fate farming is a thing. If someone is learning, theyre learning. I leveled 30-50 astro through palace of the dead. I had previous healer experience so i was fine inndungeons after that. Not everyone is like that. If youre not gonna offer help or constructive criticism, why are you complaining. Rookie is rookie regardless of what you think their skill should be at by 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia
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06-25-2018, 06:33 AMMicahZerrshiaSomeone is touchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrias
If you wanna jump into higher level content with no experience you are going to have to face the consequences of that. You cannot expect the playerbase as a whole to except you cannot perform in higher level content because you wanted to pay for your level instead of learning as you go.
Expecting everyone to conform to YOUR level of expertise is what elitism is, for both the skilled and the unskilled. I am not saying to git gud, I am saying that if you don't want to learn your job early on or at a pace that suits your native abilities, do not expect everyone to bend over and submit to your own lack of effort and expect the kicks and criticism that comes with it. Is that constructive enough for ya? -
06-25-2018, 07:34 AMAosha
Well then. Found a real infuriating healer in Snowcloak. (went in with my new summoner alt)
During the Yeti boss, he tried to tell me I was doing the boss wrong when I threw extra snowballs at the boss. We had 4 at max or mid size, I threw 2 at the boss for damage.
"Stop wasting them you can only do that when he does the big AoE learn your mechanics!"
I throw a third one, near killing the boss, and explains how they're *actually* used (both for stopping the AoE and extras for damage).
"No you only do it when he does big aoe"
Explain again, in more detail.
Get more "no only big aoe" in return... And you can guess how that continues...
/sigh