Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

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Originally Posted by Qurho

Probably! Personally, I just don't find a lot of variety in the options available, especially to women, in FF14; Outside of lalafell, they're all very human-shaped on top of being young and pretty.

Also generally I just expect the women of a lion people to at least look somewhat tough and imposing. (Like, strong enough to take down a horse??)

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Thats the perfect reason to have a Beastman Race option.
Every other race is human-looking, also typically young and pretty, or as Theo puts it; conventionally attractive.
Like, its kinda boring. Im not against at least one cute option, but a beastrace should look fierce, they should be more designed to look tough. Why not give us 1 more more masculine-leaning female? We have enough standard and dainty, cute, pretty, waifu material characters. Lets have another pretty lady that is non-standard. Something that is tough.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

They should be a beast race just like male hrothgar, rather than miqo'te 2.0, in my opinion. Just no femroe body, that would be a shame.

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Nah, a real shame is if the Female Hrothgar are Female Au-ra 2.0 were they are tiny and dainty compared to the males.
Miqote 2.0 would just be dumping salt.

FemRoe bodies for the females. Give us another tough masculine female race. Cute and beauty doesn't always have to be small and delicate

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Is it not simply two sides of the same coin? I can't help but note that many of those wanting female hrothgar to not be designed as being conventionally attractive...actually find aesthetics that are not conventional to be attractive.

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That's very much the case from how I see it, which is why I find squabbles over what they "should" look like to be kinda pointless as it's just a cycle of arguing for your thing to be chosen instead of another cause of subjective reasons.
"Everything is someone's thing" after all, so it's not like it's any more virtuous.

Putting on my arm-chair game dev hat I'd think it's clear what direction they would take the body shape.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Thats the perfect reason to have a Beastman Race option.
Every other race is human-looking, also typically young and pretty, or as Theo puts it; conventionally attractive.
Like, its kinda boring. Im not against at least one cute option, but a beastrace should look fierce, they should be more designed to look tough. Why not give us 1 more more masculine-leaning female? We have enough standard and dainty, cute, pretty, waifu material characters. Lets have another pretty lady that is non-standard. Something that is tough.

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Because it's not even masculine looking, it's straight up MAN looking! We have a wide variety of males to choose from! I don't see the problem with them looking closer to highlander, they can look still look fierce, athletic, tough in presentation. Coupled with custom animations, and emotes.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Nah, a real shame is if the Female Hrothgar are Female Au-ra 2.0 were they are tiny and dainty compared to the males.
Miqote 2.0 would just be dumping salt.

FemRoe bodies for the females. Give us another tough masculine female race. Cute and beauty doesn't always have to be small and delicate

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I have NEVER wanted them to look like au ra, or miqo'te. Literally never! They wouldn't look like that ANYWAY. Even the little we have gotten from the artwork, that gets talked about all the time, shows them being comparible in height to femroe, probably around viera height. I just don't see the relevance in this right now.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Because it's not even masculine looking, it's straight up MAN looking! We have a wide variety of males to choose from! I don't see the problem with them looking closer to highlander, they can look still look fierce, athletic, tough in presentation. Coupled with custom animations, and emotes.

I have NEVER wanted them to look like au ra, or miqo'te. Literally never! They wouldn't look like that ANYWAY. Even the little we have gotten from the artwork, that gets talked about all the time, shows them being comparible in height to femroe, probably around viera height. I just don't see the relevance in this right now.

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Masculine = Man XD
And its not about relevance lol, just talking about another avenue I wouldn't want them to go either.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Because it's not even masculine looking, it's straight up MAN looking! We have a wide variety of males to choose from! I don't see the problem with them looking closer to highlander, they can look still look fierce, athletic, tough in presentation. Coupled with custom animations, and emotes.

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As someone who played Femroe for years ... yes, they are very masculine. I've told my friend who praised my glams often that it is a struggle. It's basically a mini-game inside the game to find stuff that looks good when 60-75% of all tops make you look like a dude or makes you look like a dude wearing female clothes. I started religiously wearing 2B bottoms for the curves to balance it out and preached on FB groups about how they're a god-send for Femroe. Hell, there's certain armor sets where Femroe cut a better male shape than any of the males in this game (Eureka fending set for example, Femroe look like straight up male action figures)

After Hrothgar came out, and I played 1 for 5.0 story, I tried every female other than middie and lala and yeah ... Highlanders are a great example of what I think Hrothgar Females could look like. They look athletic but also unmistakably feminine, they are my favorite body type in the game. Given the art I think they will fall somewhere between Highlander and Viera.

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

As someone who played Femroe for years ... yes, they are very masculine. I've told my friend who praised my glams often that it is a struggle. It's basically a mini-game inside the game to find stuff that looks good when 60-75% of all tops make you look like a dude or makes you look like a dude wearing female clothes. I started religiously wearing 2B bottoms for the curves to balance it out and preached on FB groups about how they're a god-send for Femroe. Hell, there's certain armor sets where Femroe cut a better male shape than any of the males in this game (Eureka fending set for example, Femroe look like straight up male action figures)

After Hrothgar came out, and I played 1 for 5.0 story, I tried every female other than middie and lala and yeah ... Highlanders are a great example of what I think Hrothgar Females could look like. They look athletic but also unmistakably feminine, they are my favorite body type in the game. Given the art I think they will fall somewhere between Highlander and Viera.

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I love the tricks you did with that outfit. Not only did you use the 2b bottoms for curves (and butt), you chose a corset top, making the midsection less wide. Well done! That actually made me chuckle.

The one thing a base femroe can pull off is most definitely full armor. They are tall, broad. They can look decent in a fully armored look (with helmet).

Exactly, I don't know why there seems to be such an insistence that they go with a femroe body, when highlander shows you can still have a feminine bodyshape, and still look athletic and tough. Animations, cpose, emotes, make a HUGE impact, on their presentation. Female hrothgar could be everything rolled up in one, for people who want a female beast race.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

People who want to be "crushed" ... or whatever... already have femroe.

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You know, crushed, annihilated, destroyed, made into a fine pulp, etc.

But nah, like it's been said, it's a subjective matter we're just talking in circles around and it doesn't matter in the end. You might see femroe in that crass way, but I just see a really tall and decently buff body. It's simply just going to be some folks' default frame of reference in wanting some muscle on a beastly race, especially considering the men use an adjusted male roegadyn build.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I love the tricks you did with that outfit. Not only did you use the 2b bottoms for curves (and butt), you chose a corset top, making the midsection less wide. Well done! That actually made me chuckle.

The one thing a base femroe can pull off is most definitely full armor. They are tall, broad. They can look decent in a fully armored look (with helmet).

Exactly, I don't know why there seems to be such an insistence that they go with a femroe body, when highlander shows you can still have a feminine bodyshape, and still look athletic and tough. Animations, cpose, emotes, make a HUGE impact, on their presentation. Female hrothgar could be everything rolled up in one, for people who want a female beast race.

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Thanks, dressing her up and learning what works and doesn't work was a nice journey over the years (It DEF kept my dresser from filling up when we got dressers) but after trying out so many other females last year I just couldn't go back to giving up so many tops and glams.

And the only reason I can see for wanting Femroe bods is if they just like Masculine body shapes. Like it was pointed out in that post, it's 2 sides of the same coin ... they find these unconventionally attractive traits attractive.
We really don't need another Femroe and ANYTHING that's animalistic in a female face is already going to have limited appeal, so I'd think that's enough of a hurdle for appealing to people as is. I don't see the point in making something to only appeal to an even smaller demo than the Femroe one when the devs know how very very low their numbers are.

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Originally Posted by reivaxe

As someone who played Femroe for years ... yes, they are very masculine. I've told my friend who praised my glams often that it is a struggle. It's basically a mini-game inside the game to find stuff that looks good when 60-75% of all tops make you look like a dude or makes you look like a dude wearing female clothes. I started religiously wearing 2B bottoms for the curves to balance it out and preached on FB groups about how they're a god-send for Femroe. Hell, there's certain armor sets where Femroe cut a better male shape than any of the males in this game (Eureka fending set for example, Femroe look like straight up male action figures)

After Hrothgar came out, and I played 1 for 5.0 story, I tried every female other than middie and lala and yeah ... Highlanders are a great example of what I think Hrothgar Females could look like. They look athletic but also unmistakably feminine, they are my favorite body type in the game. Given the art I think they will fall somewhere between Highlander and Viera.

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I also ran into this problem when playing femroe. Mostly because all female armor is usually suuuuuper tailored to a high feminine standard or cut. The frills and puffs totally destroy the femroe silhouette. Wouldn't be an issue if they're weren't so many gender locked glams but that's another thread.