Big questions is if they were going to do confirm it in the LIVE letter, why come on in the test video seemingly making a big joke about it? Wouldn't it be better business sense to big up tension and not mention it at all and then deliver the big "I KNEW IT!" moment later?Quote:
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Looks suspicious...
Scholar... SAY WHUT?
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05-29-2013, 11:52 PMAnonymoose
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05-30-2013, 12:09 AMArkhamNative
Because I don't know Japanese, and these tests can be so silly, I don't trust my eyes. But yes, Soken did come on in Scholar garb. Showed the Before Meteor cover, etc, & some video from it, and the Dalamud minion. All the while they joked about this or that. Anyway, Yoshi-P came in and reportedly asked about Soken's mortarboard-style cap, said it's leaked all over cover art and the internet/forums, and PR and the battle team were mad about it. (Note: Yoshi-P jokes during these things, too.)
So hopefully we'll find out tomorrow, unless PR really wants it kept unofficial until E3. Whatever "it" is. -
05-30-2013, 12:17 AMPwnagraphicYeah but it was blatantly "leaked" it. Not even trying to hide it. It doesn't look like an Arcanist, which is a class, shown on a JOB wheel? C'moon.. I don't see why there's gotta be such a heavy debate over this lol.Quote:
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05-30-2013, 12:36 AMSpy
I just gotta ask again...when was it confirmed to be a JOB wheel by the STAFF and not the community? Just curious....
How do we know that it is not just showcasing the new creations of Yoshi's. Why can't this be the Yoshi wheel? Because the other classes were Tanaka's creations. Everything in that picture is Yoshi's. That's what I got anyway. But you know what? I could be wrong. It just appears to me as showcasing Yoshi's stuff, as there hasn't really been any mention of Scholar being added, and the book was already confirmed to be the Arc weapon. And we know that jobs/classes don't share weapons. -
05-30-2013, 12:41 AMDohoEverything we currently know about the armory system could literally change in one day or throughout the course of beta. these are exciting times.Quote:
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05-30-2013, 12:52 AMAnonymoosePersonally, I don't find that to be any stronger of evidence, never mind a blatant confirmation, than the fact that every class on the NA website is now wearing what looks like snazzy new CSE to go with their CSE weapons ... except arcanist.Quote:
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EDIT: Or, rather than CSE maybe these are just dyed versions of existing gear, as has been pointed out.
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I think it's still up in the air with a heavy statistical likelihood towards ACN.
I've seen SE pull a lot of stuff out of their ass for a surprise before, but never anything like that. Information is inevitably leaked from time to time, and some of it so far has been way more sensitive than this; they'd have no reason to hide the system infrastructure changes needed for this to be Scholar. Could they still do it? Hell yeah. Will they? Probably not, imho.
SE knows the English community is the only one with Scholar fever - that's why they didn't crack that joke the JP developer's blog. I would laugh my ass off if Yoshida had him put on that hat and say scholar a few times knowing that people who don't know Japanese or don't have the ear to pick up their cultural sarcastic intonation would freak out.
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05-30-2013, 01:44 AMPwnagraphic
WHat it really boils down to until confirmation is all speculation. But as stated before by someone "If it walks like a duck." I'll just wait until tomorrow morning to see the summary of the Live letter because it's obvious they'll address it since Soken whipped out his Mortar cap.
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05-30-2013, 01:46 AMAlaltus
To be fair if ACN ends up with a SCH outfit as their CSE they will have the best and most unique looking CSE of the lot of them. Unique atleast until they churn out dozens of Sch like outfits for leveling up in...
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05-30-2013, 02:16 AMXeiaOh, Moose. Those pictures aren't new, and that armor is definitely not the new, special CSE. CNJ is wearing the Vanya Robe, for one (and it's true that WHM can't wear it, but THM can). I don't remember the names of the other sets, but the GLA and MRD gear are definitely familiar.Quote:
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Arcanist isn't shown like that for the same reason Summoner isn't -- they're not ready to release in game renderings of them. I find it sort of surprising that they'd release the concept art for CSE for their new class even before doing so for their older classes. They've been pretty tight-lipped about CSE for the combat classes so far. ...Not that that's really an argument either way, just a thought.
I simply find it hard to believe that they would intentionally get all our hopes up just to be like, "LOL THERE'S NOTHING HERE, WASN'T THAT A FUNNY JOKE, GUYS?" And whether or not you think SCH is really coming, it's definitely obvious that they're teasing us about it.
We KNOW we're getting new jobs in the nearish future, Yoshi-P did mention once that he'd like to add more mages before putting in more DoWs (though he also said he'd like to add a stealthy war job, so who knows where we are on that front). There's also a reason I've been leaning towards there being nine jobs at, or close to, launch. And that's balancing. Each city has three guilds with three combat classes in them except for Limsa, which in v1 had only one class, but all three guilds. With ACN being added, that makes two classes in Limsa and still a third guild not being used. I'd been using this previously to quietly assure myself we'd be seeing a musketeer soon, but with redesigning the cities entirely it wouldn't be difficult to change that guild into one for a different class.
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05-30-2013, 02:28 AMAnonymooseYeah, the Vanya does seem out of place when compared to the others... perhaps the other outfits are just dyed versions? CSE might even be an irrelevant term and, as you say, these are multi-job with beneficial stats. The big thing is that I just don't feel it, you know? It's like trying to explain why you don't like a certain food. I'm just not buying what you're selling. I'm not above admitting a mistake - if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm just stating why I feel that it's not very likely.Quote:
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That much has been obvious since they released that artwork, but I 100% believe they'd release something that looks like something else and then not confirm it until one side was so worked up that they'll be inevitably butthurt about it for years after.Quote:
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I was pretty convinced it was SCH until I took a look at the bigger picture and the probability is just so comparatively small. It could be - remember, the bard incident was what it looked like... but there was also a lot of supporting evidence for it, specifically that they'd have needed to secretly add an entire job without telling anyone. See why this is so up in the air for me? lol
Why would there be a new guild? Aren't you arguing that this is a job? I thought this was the "job branching confirmed!" thing because of the book. Wouldn't it still just have the ACN guild?Quote:
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