A challenge. Make Bard more Bard.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

BRDs in D&D are essentially rogues. That's bow and/or dag... Nevermind...

Just keep asking to move backwards in time. -.-

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Read the OP before making a reply.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

Read the OP before making a reply.

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Read the last few pages lol

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

Read the last few pages lol

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Ah, I understand.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

This is the problem with XIV's BRD. Whilst in XI at later levels you stuck to marches, ballads and minuets, early on you had to use a multitude of different songs to maintain your group.

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Madrigal stopped mattering once accuracy foods became plentiful and beyond the scope of sushi. Paeon was meh, especially considering the two-song limit. Minne = loldefense. Carols were a waste of a song slot, specially considering how resistances worked in FFXI. The list continues. Bard had horribly cluttered ability lists.

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Being proactive was the sign of a good BRD in XI. I want the same option here.

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Keep in mind that XI gave birth to the princess bard. You may have been in the minority that liked the job as it was, but I think preventing a second coming of the princess bard (or its cousin, the princess red mage) is a tad more important.

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you didn't have to be the hurr durr meathead DD.

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Now now. Pansy-wansies that without game mechanics would not contribute anything to the fight should not be throwing stones...

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Backlogs aside, if you want new songs, I would recommend a second category of songs that cost no resouces but have cooldowns. The effects would be more for burst phases due to the songs having short durations. Maybe a song that lasts 20 seconds but increases the target/party's attack by a huge amount. Admiteddly, songs can only take you so far, and in all honesty, I think BRD is pretty well set with what it has right now.

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Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn

BRDs in D&D are essentially rogues. That's bow and/or dagger.

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Indeed. There's a reason bards were seen as badasses, and FFIV's Edward was not it.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

I'm fully prepared to get flamed for this, and with all seriousness I'm disappointed with FFXIV's Bard.

Now when I look at Archer and Bard in 1.xx and from the end of an era trailer, there isn't much difference or individuality that can distinguish them apart from one another. FFXIV Bard is still just an Archer besides the fact they wear Artifacts, and has access to a few extra skills that are staples to the job.

I challenge everyone, the readers out there to get somebody who never played FFXIV before, and show them the end of an era trailer. I guarantee you that they'll never know that a Bard was in it. They'll be like "Oh that Miqo'te is an Archer."

Square Enix, when I think of Bard I think of music that can be used to attack enemies, and buff allies and not just shooting arrows like an Archer would. I want to use that Harp, that Flute, and that Horn musical instruments we carry around.

2.0 make it happen.


You're free to disagree with me from the following:
Look at this Bard. This is completely my opinion but, why other game companies is doing Bard right?

I used Aion Bard as a reference only because it actually uses instruments to fight, and to buff. There is no need to compare what it looks like except for its concept.

Discuss in the posting section below.

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OMG THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! FINALLY FOR REAL U THE MAN! WTH IS WITH SE BRD in this game is nothing compare to a real BRD i mean seriously what u wrote is totally true brd in FF14 is and archer with few extra skills nothing that make them look a real BRD im sorry SE but u did really bad job on your part!! on doing this i was sooo happy when i hear BRD was coming and then i played it until i unluck all their skills and that was the last time i played it because i didnt like it, it didnt interested me for be brd because it was the same as a playing archer so SE PLEASE YOU BETTER CHANGE BRD ON 2.0 please!!!!!!!

Maybe i'm the only one but.. i like FFXIV 1.0's BRD
Would be cool, if they make the effect of songs based on a stat so you could stack that stat to improve songs. A stronger heal would also be great. Thats all i would change.

I can't stop staring at Andrien sign @_@

Greetings my musical friends!

I'd like to take a moment and give you some news about bard in ARR.

Drum roll please!
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When performing songs, bards will take out an instrument and play!

This is the only detail we can give to you for now, but we hope you like it. :)

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Greetings my musical friends!

I'd like to take a moment and give you some news about bard in ARR.

Drum roll please!
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When performing songs, bards will take out an instrument and play!

This is the only detail we can give to you for now, but we hope you like it. :)

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Yay! Good kitty. :3

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Greetings my musical friends!

I'd like to take a moment and give you some news about bard in ARR.

Drum roll please!
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.
When performing songs, bards will take out an instrument and play!

This is the only detail we can give to you for now, but we hope you like it. :)

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This is fantastic news! Now I am even more excited to return to XIV on my bard!