With Apologies to Sena Bryer

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Originally Posted by vafurous

ok just choose to ignore the people that actively misgender sena on these forums and In This Thread and assume im talking out of my ass, you do you man

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Pls don't misgender me.

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Originally Posted by Karious

Pls don't misgender me.

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my bad you do you bestie

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Re: Voice Actor

I'm not sure why people are mad at the VA tbh. If her performance was subpar, it's not her fault. Nothing at all is her fault. Ultimately this falls on whoever is in charge quality assurance at SE. They were satisfied with her performance, so the responsibility falls on them squarely. She could have had more takes. She could have been replaced entirely. They chose to keep her. Love her or hate her, she did the job she was picked for and got her paycheck.

That said, with the pretty mediocre story that was Endwalker and now Dawntrail, I'm not sure the quality checks in general are particularly high, and certainly they'll never be high enough for certain players.

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Originally Posted by Picothea

I commented that Sena cannot show evidence because it may disrupt the police investigation, and people are using my comment to say she should show evidence? If somebody sent you a death threat, would you let the police wait because internet strangers need to see it first? No, duh.
Calm the hell down and let her deal with the problem without you breathing down her neck because you wanna see the juicy death threats.

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There's no police investigation lol.

People only claim they're getting death threats on twitter because they're fishing for sympathy.

I've no sympathy for a person who wants others out of their jobs, i.e. her comments towards a female VA for voicing a trans character. It's always x for me but not for thee with people like that. Lets not forget the way she wishes she could treat cis and straight VA's, hint like utter garbage.

And not sorry but I frankly don't believe she got a bunch of threats, so many people play up the abuse they get to score a bigger victim card. To the extent it is true, it's unacceptable and for death threats the police should be contacted. You can hate the VA all you want, death threats and such are stupid. Calling for her to never voice anything important for SE again, I'm all for that one... she really didn't do a great job. When Wuk was just talking it wasn't awful, but anything with more emotions or exertion was straight ass, heck she even lost the accent at times.

But I won't be crying over a crappy individual getting backlash for not only their crappy opinions but the crappy job they did voicing Wuk Lamat. Should have hired someone with more range, that final scene was f'ing tragic in English. The VA quality overall for english speakers was pretty bad, Wuk stands out more because we never got away from her. Ditch that LA studio please SE, they did a crap job. Go back to the old one.

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Originally Posted by Vandi

I believe the current situation of outright hatred in these forums toward Wuk Lamat has grown enough to draw attention to a very serious matter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...XTF4JIHhOBAQAA

Many of you have very respectfully given feedback on a few of the elements you’ve found needing adjustment, along with suggestion to improve them. That’s what the forums are for. Many, many, many others of you, multiple times, have openly voiced your disgust, contempt, outright hatred of said character for ruining your experience in Dawntrail.

And now, a few of you, for WHATEEEEEVER reason…have felt justified in doing the above. This particular brand of malice, like I said in another post. . .is disgusting. I’ve been playing 14 since 2.0 and I have not once seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what’s transpired here, be it this forum, Reddit, wherever. Not the first time, but this…

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Her performance sucked
Sorry to hear she's suffering about it but this is the internet and you can't 100% police everything people will do. Ignoring incels who send death threats is the best course of action because nothing they say matters.
Will never understand when people complain about this when blocking people has never been easier and ignoring them is the easiest thing to do.
There's been plenty of praise for her on twitter! Interact with those! Acknowledging the idiots just gives them cause to do it more because they KNOW they got under your skin!

I like the character but her English voice was not to my liking, I switched to JP. I do think she was either wrongly casted for the role, and directed poorly. Just my two cents,

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Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon

Sena Bryer is not Wuk Lamat. Hating a character does not mean you hate the person who played the character. Hating Joffrey doesn't mean you hate Jack Gleeson.

Sena Bryer is not her performance of Wuk Lamat. Hating her performance does not mean you hate her. I hated the writing of DT and I express that several times a day. Yet no one has accused me of hating Daichi Hiroi. People have however accused me of hating Sena Bryer for hating DT's story, like she wrote it or something.

Two things are being conflated here, bigotry and dislike of a product we paid for. Bigotry is bad. Don't be bigoted, but if you pay money for something and DT is what you get, you have every right to complain because the quality of DT was downright disrespectful. It was like no one looked at it.

Leave Sena Bryer alone, she couldn't have saved this story if she was the best VA in human history, but also, those who are conflating hatred of a trash story with transphobia, please stop also.

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I hate both of them. So what?

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Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon

Sena Bryer is not Wuk Lamat. Hating a character does not mean you hate the person who played the character. Hating Joffrey doesn't mean you hate Jack Gleeson.

Sena Bryer is not her performance of Wuk Lamat. Hating her performance does not mean you hate her. I hated the writing of DT and I express that several times a day. Yet no one has accused me of hating Daichi Hiroi. People have however accused me of hating Sena Bryer for hating DT's story, like she wrote it or something.

Two things are being conflated here, bigotry and dislike of a product we paid for. Bigotry is bad. Don't be bigoted, but if you pay money for something and DT is what you get, you have every right to complain because the quality of DT was downright disrespectful. It was like no one looked at it.

Leave Sena Bryer alone, she couldn't have saved this story if she was the best VA in human history, but also, those who are conflating hatred of a trash story with transphobia, please stop also.

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You're really trying to blur those lines here, aren't you.

Wuk Lamat was an absolutely miserable character.

Wuk Lamat would not go away, and stop making everything about themselves.

That's why we hate Wuk Lamat. That has absolutely nothing to do with the VA.

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The VA did a dog water job of acting. That's why we were upset.

The VA previously acknowledged that they sucked at the exact type of role they took, because the "industry is keeping her down, man". That's why we were angry.

The VA regularly says terrible things, crapped on an innocent victim because they were a woman and stealing their victimhood points, and showed just how vile and misogynistic they are. That's why we are currently at the point of hatred.

So no. You don't get to say that we hate anyone because they were Wuk Lamat. JP players hate Wuk Lamat too. That's not what's going on here, and you know it. You're just as bad as the constant barrage of buzzwords everyone is throwing at valid criticism.