Thank you for the Astro changes coming in dawntrail!

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Originally Posted by Kissune

I replied to you, yes. Of my own volition. Bc I don't have this weird aversion to reading and interacting with people I disagree with, unlike yourself. Are you implying that if someone replies to your post you have to respond? Or are you just that obsessed with me that you gotta offer a quip every time I say something? Bc so far your replies to me have had no substance beyond 'I don't want to read that'

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As I stated in my first post responding to you, I'm not passing judgement or forming opinions until I see the full kit. I think that should have been enough of a cue for you to pick up that I'm not interested in debating the quality of DT AST as we know of it now. I think it's pointless wheel spinning atm. If the kit is subpar, which would not surprise me, I will make my opinion known at that point.

What I take issue with is your conduct throughout the thread. You've done nothing but insult, berate, and talk down to those who don't mimic your stance. Forgive me for wanting to have a bit of fun taking some jabs at someone such as yourself.

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

OP posted some valid personal opinions and beliefs about the new astro and as always I see that the official FF14 forum is still full of elitist who believe their opinions are better than anyones..

Its sadly a trend i keep seeing regardless of which sub forum. Anyone who says anything remotely positive about the game is shot down immediately by a bunch of "well actually" sayers.

It doesnt matter what changes SE does to Astro or any healer. People are never happy.

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Most of the regular posters of the healer forums offer pretty constructive and direct feedback on what they want from the healers. And most people are open to debating and debunking arguments. Calling the majority of forum posters elitist is a real stretch.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Ah bless the ignore list.

In other news! NA media tour seems to be done on the content creator side, hopeful we can find out more on the new cards and other abilities soon! Maybe next week? Do we know if there is anything at all for EU creators? I swear on one of the LL they mentioned something on the 30th but I can't remember if I am mistaking the benchmark for that or what. I'll be glad to return to AST healing for the coming tier thought, I can run again with my fave coheal! That was probably the most sad thing swapping off healer, not being coheal with my friend anymore even if we remain in the same group. I'll take my main back to AST and use alts for the other jobs I wanna play I think.

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Wait there is an ignore list? where and how do I use it? I didn't think there was one here.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Strange you don’t interpret “there is never positive feedback on the healer forum” as “they must be elitists who refuse to enjoy the game” and not “there is actually problems with healers”

Especially given they haven’t changed a single healer in 3 expansions now so I don’t know what we are supposed to be happy about

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Just my two cents but the healer forums have always been this way. Heck, even the beta forums for 1.x were full of complaints that conjurer was the way it was. I also don't think he said there weren't any problems with healers.

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Originally Posted by Zolvolt

Wait there is an ignore list? where and how do I use it? I didn't think there was one here.

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You can add them to your ignore list when you visit their profile.

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Originally Posted by LynxDubh

You can add them to your ignore list when you visit their profile.

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I'm going to use it just like my blacklist. Fill it up when needed and clear it every so often.

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Originally Posted by LynxDubh

As I stated in my first post responding to you, I'm not passing judgement or forming opinions until I see the full kit. I think that should have been enough of a cue for you to pick up that I'm not interested in debating the quality of DT AST as we know of it now. I think it's pointless wheel spinning atm. If the kit is subpar, which would not surprise me, I will make my opinion known at that point.

What I take issue with is your conduct throughout the thread. You've done nothing but insult, berate, and talk down to those who don't mimic your stance. Forgive me for wanting to have a bit of fun taking some jabs at someone such as yourself.

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I've been insulted, berated, and ESPECIALLY talked down to by the very same people, yourself included. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, as they say. I admitted right at the start I'm a bit of a bitch. It's everyone else pretending they're not that I take issue with.

I ain't gonna knock you for taking jabs at me, I get it. Just don't be shocked and appalled when I bite back.

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Originally Posted by Zaytex

The casual players thematically love the idea of each card having a different use card, even if SB era made it apparent only the DPS increase card was viable in content that had any meaning.

AST rework is purely down to catering for casuals, which makes sense given they're the biggest source of income for the game.

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I feel like it should be noted that during StB the highest bard parse was when they were under the effect of the spear, which increased crit rate at the time. Everyone operated under the assumption that DPS % boost was obviously the best but that wasn't always the case. It also only mattered to parsers who wanted higher numbers, the StB card system did not prohibit anyone from clearing content.

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

OP posted some valid personal opinions and beliefs about the new astro and as always I see that the official FF14 forum is still full of elitist who believe their opinions are better than anyones..

Its sadly a trend i keep seeing regardless of which sub forum. Anyone who says anything remotely positive about the game is shot down immediately by a bunch of "well actually" sayers.

It doesnt matter what changes SE does to Astro or any healer. People are never happy.

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If you post on a feedback forum, you should be open to feedback on your own posts. If people think you are wrong, they will tell you. The forums aren't a hive mind.

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Originally Posted by LynxDubh

As I stated in my first post responding to you, I'm not passing judgement or forming opinions until I see the full kit. I think that should have been enough of a cue for you to pick up that I'm not interested in debating the quality of DT AST as we know of it now. I think it's pointless wheel spinning atm. If the kit is subpar, which would not surprise me, I will make my opinion known at that point.

What I take issue with is your conduct throughout the thread. You've done nothing but insult, berate, and talk down to those who don't mimic your stance. Forgive me for wanting to have a bit of fun taking some jabs at someone such as yourself.

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At this point I'm mostly tired of these people. Disagreeing with me is fine, its expected to happen. There are plenty of people I disagree with but don't feel the need to call idiots, like the people who think stormblood cards would work in current ffxiv fight design. But the arguments I'm being shoved with are so utterly nonsensical it just feels like trying to talk to a wall, built on the idea that somehow DT cards are more enjoyable than EW cards even though theyve lost everything that made them cards in the first place, replaced with a glorified aetherflow with a card aesthetic. And it's insane seeing people defend that, and laud it as a step forward when all I see from even that mindset is 5 steps back, 1 step forwards (even if i disagree on it being a step forwards at all). It just baffles me, like they have to be either lying for fun or completely misunderstanding something critical. You get me?

Whenever I tried to get an answer out about what I possibly could have been missing about it all I get back it is 'awwwwh, poor endwawker baby, she cant possibwy understand!' (Hyperbole, Aelin). They tell me what they like about stormblood cards, I listen, and then in the same breath they say they prefer DT cards to EW/ShB which just tells me that theres something incompatible going on bc I'm sorry bit EW cards are closer to StB than DT, design wise. And that frustrates me.

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Originally Posted by Zolvolt

Wait there is an ignore list? where and how do I use it? I didn't think there was one here.



Just my two cents but the healer forums have always been this way. Heck, even the beta forums for 1.x were full of complaints that conjurer was the way it was. I also don't think he said there weren't any problems with healers.

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It's from their profile, it's very nice not to see the childish rants anymore. I said my piece, that person is just determined to be mad and spread his misery so he isn't alone wallowing in it. I'm just hoping now we get some info the end of this month so we can see in more detail the AST changes. Still super hype for it! If the cards are quite simple I want to get the feedback in for some more interesting effects and ofc the manipulation I so desire ;)