I'm One Of The Filthiests Of Casuals And Even I Can See How Dumbdown FF14 Has Become!

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The biggest fail state of them all

Clicking accept on the duty finder

You can never fail if you AFK in limsa

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They fail to amuse me so they just clog up the server and make me stuck in queue every time I log in. They’re worse than friendlies in Team Fortress 2. There’s so many community servers out there for them but clicking anything more than Casual and then Queue (I forget the second button and can’t be bothered to remember) is too much for them. Hence why they start spamming obscenities when you frag them because they know they can’t play worth a damn.

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

lol, You have no idea how bad some player can be in mmo...

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And yet people managed to do Titan Hardmode for their relic with far more latency and far less understanding of the game and it's intricacies.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

And yet people managed to do Titan Hardmode for their relic with far more latency and far less understanding of the game and it's intricacies.

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There are people out there who were unable to finish a dungeon
because the timer went out....(unable to kill the last boss)

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

There are people out there who were unable to finish a dungeon
because the timer went out....(unable to kill the last boss)

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Natural selection.

If they find it too hard they can always take a break to play other games :3

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Originally Posted by OgruMogru

Natural selection.

If they find it too hard they can always take a break to play other games :3

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or they could play something easier, so they can spend their attention on learning the tactics first ^^

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

There are people out there who were unable to finish a dungeon
because the timer went out....(unable to kill the last boss)

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Back in ARR? Or now?

Either way I've seen a few vote abandons in my years but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a timer expire in a dungeon.

People adapt to the level that the content expects of them. You had to be vaguely competent or at least pay some attention to get through the likes of AK but in turn it taught you valuable mechanics that would return in the HM primals.

In modern Expertos, the challenge floor is basically not getting vote kicked. Anything above that and you're going to clear even if the tank has to solo half the dungeon on your behalf.

By all means feel free to provide links of people timing out dungeons though. If it's a genuine concern then I'm sure you'll have no shortage of PoVs, logs and whatnot for me++

so smn is popular and thats bad? and your fix is to make is harder so no one wants to play it so that they will be forced to play other hard classes when they just want a easy class to enjoy the game on?

do you people hear yourselves?

yeah its good to have hard classes for people taht like that , but we need easy classes for those that like that too, and even if one type is more popular than the other doesn't mean you are wrong for liking one or the other..

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

so smn is popular and thats bad? and your fix is to make is harder so no one wants to play it so that they will be forced to play other hard classes when they just want a easy class to enjoy the game on?

do you people hear yourselves?

yeah its good to have hard classes for people taht like that , but we need easy classes for those that like that too, and even if one type is more popular than the other doesn't mean you are wrong for liking one or the other..

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The point was they deleted a hard class to give a simple class when the classes already lean simple as they are, plus this class adds the extra bonus of literally not having a fail state, there is “easy classes” and then there is “the game plays the class for you”, it’s the same logic as yoshi saying the manderville relics are good because of high engagement, people naturally gravitating to a job you physically can’t fail if you try doesn’t necessarily constitute a good thing

If SMN was a new class and old SMN still existed then nobody would have a problem

It’s the same problem as if they in the next expansion deleted WHM and DNC and replaced them with BLM/MNK difficulty classes

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The point was they deleted a hard class to give a simple class when the classes already lean simple as they are

If SMN was a new class and old SMN still existed then nobody would have a problem

It’s the same problem as if they in the next expansion deleted WHM and DNC and replaced them with BLM/MNK difficulty classes

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SMN wasnt a hard class before, you kept 2 dots up, and spammed ruin while using CDs to build a dragon and spam ruin but stronk. it was a directionless warlock clone with a dragon every 2 mins that lacked a core rotation, just priory buttons..

i played it too, it wasnt the worst, but i love the new one so much more, it actually feels like a full class, yeah its easy, but there is nothing wrong with that.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

Back in ARR? Or now?

Either way I've seen a few vote abandons in my years but I don't think I've ever seen or heard of a timer expire in a dungeon.

People adapt to the level that the content expects of them. You had to be vaguely competent or at least pay some attention to get through the likes of AK but in turn it taught you valuable mechanics that would return in the HM primals.

In modern Expertos, the challenge floor is basically not getting vote kicked. Anything above that and you're going to clear even if the tank has to solo half the dungeon on your behalf.

By all means feel free to provide links of people timing out dungeons though. If it's a genuine concern then I'm sure you'll have no shortage of PoVs, logs and whatnot for me++

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why does everything have to revolve around your experience?
as if other people's experience is worthless if you yourself has not seen/heard/experienced the same.