Hildibrand for relic? Really?

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

And Hildibrad doesn't contain any world-building at all?

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Nothing on par with the likes of Bozja's world building and lore.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

And Hildibrad doesn't contain any world-building at all?

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I'm not gonna sit through two years of exploding funny man exploding and being funny for a morsel of worldbuilding.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

but either way it's bad form to require such an absurdly long questline to be completed before we can do this expansion’s relic.

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have to ask, have you done any other relics? ARR for example...

if so, then your concept of "absurdly long questline" seems a little skewed...

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I don't know. In my eyes, I think SE should really evaluate whether or not to work on content they feel they need to merge with a relic questline in order to get players to do it. I mean they continue to work on things like this when things like instanced housing, deep dungeons, and reducing bots are among the highest in demand.

Besides, how can you truly know which players truly enjoy the Hildabrand questline when you make it a requirement for something they do actually want? Do you want to force content down our throats, or actually give players the ability to choose which content they go into?

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Some content is usually required in order to start the relic quests. You didn't get to choose whether or not you wanted to complete the Ivalice raid series did you, for the Shadowbringers weapon? No.

However, what you need to do to complete the relic grind is a completely different story - for the Resistance weapon there were options- fates, raids, deep dungeon- that was a good approach, even if this new relic is more "quest oriented" those quests could hopefully allow for a choice of solo or group or alliance content.

I'm am excited and not at all biased to this news.

If this causes more people to have Kugane Ohashi on their trials list for the roulette, I'm all for it. The longest part of Hildibrand is the queues.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

It's enough to break routine, and that's what tends to grind gears when it comes to forced content. Breaking routine is not bad, and actually a good thing if it is something the person actually wants to do. People who actually want to run Hildabrand won't have any issues breaking away from their daily grinds, and will be refreshing for them. For everyone else, it's a chore. They don't want to see the cutscenes. They don't want to read or skip through a ton of dialogue. They want nothing to do with the questline. Devs need to see by making these kind of decisions they cater to a minority while pissing off the majority. These are not good decisions, and this is coming from someone who defends this team to no end.

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I'm curious as to how that you would know that of the players that are interested in the relic- and I have no idea of how many complete this completely optional content - how would you know "Devs need to see by making these kind of decisions they cater to a minority while pissing off the majority. These are not good decisions"

I understand that it's your opinion, and clearly there are others in this thread that share that opinion. However others do not. I could understand if you're disappointed in a decision - even if many details haven't been released as yet- however there are likely a fair amount of people who are looking forwards to the new relic.

I just hope it's different from the rest of the hildibrand content cause much like others have said here, I prefer the more serious content to the silly stuff. I think if you've done one hildibrand quest, you've done them all cause it's the same old stuff. Haha lady has bombs!! Wow look at that flexing!! Oh no LOOK, GODBERT IS NAKED AGAIN!!! GROIN JOKES HEHE

I was forced into doing ARR and HW quests for the Blue Spellbook completion and it was an abysmal experience. I forced myself to read the dialogue and watch the cutscenes and felt like I had lost IQ points doing so.

And people are right, its optional content so sure, it can be skipped. But to potentially lose out on an entire Field Operations zone was a bit of a sting for me. Who knows, maybe we'll still get one. Corvos was name dropped so many times it's hard to believe we wont be going there in the patch cycle.

Considering Bozja was locked behind 24 man for Stormblood. I would say this is much more lenient. Watch 7.0 relic be locked behind the void ark. I dont understand their reasoning behind this. I hope they learn from this though.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Considering Bozja was locked behind 24 man for Stormblood. I would say this is much more lenient. Watch 7.0 relic be locked behind the void ark. I dont understand their reasoning behind this. I hope they learn from this though.

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Isn't the Void Arc series needed for Taratu? Granted I wasn't fully awake at the time but thought i saw that.