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09-17-2018, 10:31 AM
Skivvy

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Originally Posted by ko_

I want to add on to her post and bring this idea to other parts of the game. If this wasn't about a house but about being kicked from a raid, dungeon, party everyone here will be saying a differnt tune. How many times do we tell people to do their homework? Read your tooltips, go watch guides, learn the mechs? 90% of all that means you're looking at stuff outside the game. So why is housing no different? Why is housing or in this case here so different that it's all SE's fault. I agree with Sigma 100% If you are invested in this game then it takes more than just ingame stuff to get the job done, thats what we ask for players in battle content.... it should be the same for housing content as well. Cause noone will be saying this if this were savage or raid or dungeons or rotations. You don't believe me? Go to tales of a dutyfinder and 90% of those complaints are fro mpeople complaining people not doing their homework and making runs horrible. So I don't think Sigma is wrong here in her opinion.

Player housing is not content where you are interacting with other players, and you are not going to be bringing down a raid by your lack of knowledge. Also, plenty of people ARE for learning a raid/dungeon/whatever via in-game experience. Watching a video or reading a guide is not expected or required to play this game. Some groups may require it for their own statics/PF runs, but that's on the individual leader.
09-17-2018, 10:33 AM
Kurando

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Originally Posted by R-Pete-G

Was that recently? Some of my FC friends were saying there were reports of people supposedly losing their homes without warning, but when I looked it didn't seem to be related to my issue with emails not being received. Was it a ploy after all?

So wait, you heard stories of homes being lost and you never thought to look further in this? I mean surely if you received emails successfully you would of known your property was up for demolition, if you didn't receive them then you would entered your house to ensure you didn't lose it.
09-17-2018, 11:06 AM
MeeDeggiThePunisher

If this helps, I too knew of the auto-demo but thought if you're logging on before the timer runs out you'd be fine. I just now learned that you actually have to interact with it for the timer to stop.
09-17-2018, 11:21 AM
Skivvy

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Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher

If this helps, I too knew of the auto-demo but thought if you're logging on before the timer runs out you'd be fine. I just now learned that you actually have to interact with it for the timer to stop.

Totally unrelated, but your user name just gave me some rather vivid flashbacks of trying to gear my poor MNK.
09-17-2018, 11:25 AM
Avatre

Not sure how well it would work...but maybe they could add a mog-mail for people who are approaching the demolition date. Not sure what good it will do to people who have already lost their house, but maybe it's something they can look into.
09-17-2018, 11:45 AM
ko_

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Maybe because housing isn't high end combat and no one is relying on you to do things correctly? Losing your house doesn't make your neighbour lose their house. But messing up in combat can ruin the fight for everyone. Raids are a team effort, private housing usually is not.

While yes you're right, but housing isn't just only solo content either and it does effect everyone else. Cause you can't buy the plot they are on if the house is there. So lets say there's only one plott left. And 10 people are rushing to get it. The plot being bought effects the other 9 players. But that's niether here no there. I bring this up cause it's still true. He's STILL writing on the fourms aboutt it, he STILL was not very well informed. Had this been anything else people would be singing a different tune. Why is this different? It's still on him to be informed on how to keep his house right? Just like it's on HIM to be informed on his rotation skills and everything else. If the person is NOT held to that then who's to say it's the person's duty in opther content? Other players or not right? All the information is out there. I don't care if it's housing or crafting or for crying out loud carby shoes. It's on YOU not SE to keep yourself informed. If you can't do THAT? well anything that happens to you is on YOU and only you.
09-17-2018, 11:51 AM
Skivvy

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Originally Posted by ko_

While yes you're right, but housing isn't just only solo content either and it does effect everyone else. Cause you can't buy the plot they are on if the house is there. So lets say there's only one plott left. And 10 people are rushing to get it. The plot being bought effects the other 9 players. But that's niether here no there. I bring this up cause it's still true. He's STILL writing on the fourms aboutt it, he STILL was not very well informed. Had this been anything else people would be singing a different tune. Why is this different? It's still on him to be informed on how to keep his house right? Just like it's on HIM to be informed on his rotation skills and everything else. If the person is NOT held to that then who's to say it's the person's duty in opther content? Other players or not right? All the information is out there. I don't care if it's housing or crafting or for crying out loud carby shoes. It's on YOU not SE to keep yourself informed. If you can't do THAT? well anything that happens to you is on YOU and only you.

This is a massive stretch.
09-17-2018, 11:51 AM
ko_

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Player housing is not content where you are interacting with other players, and you are not going to be bringing down a raid by your lack of knowledge. Also, plenty of people ARE for learning a raid/dungeon/whatever via in-game experience. Watching a video or reading a guide is not expected or required to play this game. Some groups may require it for their own statics/PF runs, but that's on the individual leader.

No but you're missing my point. It's still on him mostly to make sure he has the information to take care of his stuff right? It's no different then learning his rotation? Or what we give him a pass simply cause it's housing? Why? All the information is out there. If you can't be bothered to look up what you have and how to take care of it why should the company be at fault for you losing it? So is it SE fault for noobs failing DPS checks and being ice mages? Is it SE fault that people don't know how things work when ALL the information is as simple as a google click away? Housing is no different.. yes he's not killing 7 players BUT he IS telling us about it.. and the biggest reason he lost his house is cause he was unimforned. Had the man did a simple google search NONE of this would've happened. Missing emails or NOT. So yes the ball is on him. You can say SE messed up with the emails fine. But again had he did what he was posed to do in the first place he wouldn't be in this spot he's in now. This is just as much his fault or more his fault then anything else.
09-17-2018, 11:53 AM
Penthea

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Originally Posted by ko_

While yes you're right, but housing isn't just only solo content either and it does effect everyone else. Cause you can't buy the plot they are on if the house is there. So lets say there's only one plott left. And 10 people are rushing to get it. The plot being bought effects the other 9 players.

You are really reaching with this comparison. Raiding and housing have very little in common, especially personal housing. Personal housing is very rarely a team effort. Either you don't know how raiding works, or you don't know how housing works.

May as well start comparing cactpot with housing while you're at it.

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Originally Posted by ko_

Why is this different?

Because (crazy idea I know) it's not the same.
09-17-2018, 11:58 AM
ko_

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Originally Posted by Penthea

You are really reaching with this comparison. Raiding and housing have very little in common, especially personal housing. Personal housing is very rarely a team effort. Either you don't know how raiding works, or you don't know how housing works.

May as well start comparing cactpot with housing while you're at it.

Because (crazy idea I know) it's not the same.

Forget the comparsion then... you are still missing the point. The information is out there. Just like everything else. So what cause it's housing the person isn't posed to look up information to keep it? That doesn't make sense. It's not like it's not out there AT ALL. Literally all he had to do was google. It's not SE fault he was too tucking lazy to use google. Sorry but I'm not goign to blame the company for a user error.. which is what this is. Had he did the research NONE OF THIS WOULD'VE HAPPEN! Can we stop with wanting to blame SE for EVERYTHING fopr a change and actually expect people to do their part for something that's - important- to them? Or is SE posed to baby us for everything?

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