@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

Please no...I want to be a SAM DPS...no more tanking ugggh. They already picked DRK for that, which works fine..we do not need another 2H tank ; ;

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Originally Posted by shao32

well thats why they add more jobs in every mmo, its not like we need more that we have now, but add mre jobs in to the expansion is a way to make players come back and find new ways to do they role and how know meaby become they main, after all we dont need more jobs taht the original composition on 2.0 PLD,WAR,DRG,MNK,BRD,SMN,BLM, SCH and WHM

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I see your point and agree to a degree, I am just wording it that way because the two core arguments I've seen on this thread for SAM tank have either been "We need to make SAM a tank or the current tank pool will get bored and shrink." or "We need to make SAM a tank so more people will want to play tank." and I disagree with those points. SAM can honestly go either way but I don't agree that we should make it go one way out of some obligation to keep a portion of the player base happy. If that makes any sense.

I'd like to see another tank/dps hybrid, like WAR. We know pld/drk off tanking is garbage. Having a viable high damage second off tank might finally knock warriors off of their pedestal. XD

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Originally Posted by Ariane

We got 13 jobs. 3 healers, 3 tanks, 4 ranged DPS, and 3 melee DPS. That is one "too many" ranged DPS if SE wants a job role ratio at 1 tank to 1 healer to 1 melee DPS to 1 ranged DPS. A new melee DPS makes a lot more sense.

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Frankly, 4 ranged jobs are not enough! For those who love to play mage, caster, wizard, 2 jobs are not enough! We have 3 tank, 3 healer, 5 war jobs and still only 2 mage DPS jobs. It breaks my heart that I only have 2 mage jobs to play with and that I have to endure such limitations. Other MMORPGs have more than just 2 mage classes but here? Still stuck with 2 mage DPS jobs with Heavensward! And I play Bard and Machinist as well and they're not mage, they're war jobs, don't lump them with the mage jobs.

I honestly could care less for Sam but do we really need Sam as tank when Dk is a tank?
Dps would be cool

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Originally Posted by Derio

I think dps queue times are longer than 20 minutes

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Five minutes on my MCH for pretty much everything. Sounds like a data center problem.

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

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we need more tanks and healers regarless how are, and is imposible to make everyone happy, in my opinion i dont care if SAM go to dps if we get a nice cool tank idk templar for examle.

SAM can be go in to 2 sides, but looking how ppl react they go after what looks cool and is fun, that happen with DRK and now we have many new tanks, what i mean in the end is what the game need, not what the player base want, if the game need more tank players the best way to get more is making marketing in with the role with a new super cool and fun job, if the game need more dps is the same.

so about "We need to make SAM a tank or the current tank pool will get bored and shrink"is true and false, whe need a cool tank with fun mechanics to refresh tank experience, not need to be SAM, but is a big plus.

and "We need to make SAM a tank so more people will want to play tank." well in part is true, SAM is a pretty demanded job, all want it to they role, so add SAM to the tank squad is go to increse tank population for a long time making new ppl go to try the experience of tank like DRK do in 3.0, and if the jobs iis like i say before fun can make new ppl main tankig or at least having it like second main.

It's true that 60% of the people who hate tanking will not tank however, the other 40% will play the job because of it being samurai. So it would increase the numbers of tanks. Perhaps not by a huge percent but somewhat.

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Originally Posted by shao32

we need more tanks and healers.

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I agree. Whole heartedly I agree. Again, SAM could go either way and be fun, personally I would PREFER a DPS SAM but a Tank SAM would be fine too. But I think there are other Jobs that could fit the tank role better. I see your points on how SAM would make more people decide to tank cause "SAM is cool." and concede that.

The other point though, that it needs to be a tank or the tank pool will shrink, I still don't agree with. If the tanking pool is that fickle about it, then making SAM tank would only delay what would essentially be the inevitable, which is that the tanking pool will shrink.

But yes, we need more tanks and healers (Which is why I'm hoping RDM comes out of no where as a tank, or sticks to it's jack of all trades motif and can be all 3 roles. But that would be a bit tricky I think.)

How much did Dark Knight increase the amount of active tank players? :p