Seriously SE???

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Originally Posted by Phe

Entirely new content? Are you kidding me?

SE still owes us 4/5 (that is 80%) of coerthas.
SE still owes us half of Mor Dhona.
and people are waiting since 2010 to set a foot into Ishgard.

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SE doesn't owe you anything.

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Originally Posted by ladyJ

pre-order digital download stardard edition 39.99 ???

that is more then to official game was on release... 29.99 i was ok with but this is getting a bit too high i believe. i have been here since beta phase for 2.0. played 1.0 since alpha and over 6 years in ffxi ...

but this price is a bit high for a digital download expansion.

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This game was only $25 because it is a re-release of a game from 2010. This game is version 2.0 for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Cadmar

SE doesn't owe you anything.

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SE owes me non-recycled content when they want another 40 bucks from me.

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Originally Posted by Phe

SE owes me non-recycled content when they want another 40 bucks from me.

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Yeah, and you don't know what has or hasn't been recycled other than some dragons. What we actually have seen of the expansion has been nothing but new assets so far. Keep those premature judgements in your rear until you know enough to actually say them.

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Originally Posted by Phe

SE owes me non-recycled content when they want another 40 bucks from me.

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Bro their competitor World of Warcraft just released a $50 expansion pack. How much cheaper does it have to be to appease you?

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Originally Posted by Phe

and you can't tell me more than 300 people are involved with ARR on a regular basis.

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Trust me, there's more than 300 people involved. 300 people may just be the in-house staff. There's still the likes of temp agencies for CS, accountants, and legal, all of which are probably shared with Square-Enix's other divisions. Just handling the international support for the game would require a minimum of 3 different offices (JP, NA, EU) and about 100 personnel for each one. Granted most of these personnel take in far less money than, say, the development team, but there still needs to be a lot of them to meet the needs of the playerbase. There needs to be phone support, email support, website support, and in-game support for more than 5 dozen servers. And they need representation from English, Japanese, Spanish, French, German, and likely many other languages.
Yeah, CS is a mess.
Then there's taxes, and the accounting departments, and the legal team.
Basically the FFXIV's calculated "5m pure profit" gets shredded to pieces when you start chopping it up for taxes and paying for additional offices/services. And that's before getting into other contracts.
Let me put it this way: If it were as profitable as you're implying, why are there so few P2P MMOs left?
"doing the math" is no substitute for simple logic in this case.

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Originally Posted by Phe

SE owes me non-recycled content when they want another 40 bucks from me.

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Cool, I'm sure you'll put your money where your mouth is and not buy the expansion, right?

What in what we have seen in Heavensward looks recycled?

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What in what we have seen in Heavensward looks recycled?

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Au ra are reskinned Miqo'te. They surely didn't put much effort into making yet another "humans with weird ears and a tale" race.

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Originally Posted by Phe

SE owes me non-recycled content when they want another 40 bucks from me.

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They don't owe you anything

They put out a product and a price - those that are willing to pay the price for it gets it.
If you are not willing to pay, then don't
no one is forcing you to pay.

[QUOTE=Zumi;2788909]Way more content in Heavensward then CoP had. My static group for FFXI cleared all the CoP missions on the first day in about 4 hours

Sigh, this is nothing but sheer fantasy, and people who never played xi, or played it after the CoP nerfs will buy it, I played it for 8 and a half years.

"No-one" ever cleared CoP in 1 day much less 4 hours, Se published a statement at one point that CoP crags were nerfed because according to their best estimates some 14% of all xi players had ever cleared the promyvion content.

When the crag clears were completed by groups before they were nerfed, they would simply refuse to help anyone else do it ever again, that's how hard the content was before nerfs, the final boss fight was blasted for "artificial" difficulty in thread after thread raging on the subject.

While you may convince people xi was a walk in the park, I know better.