How did the community become this toxic?

It is true the community as derived to a bad orientation, but in the least to say, not all is bad. Sometimes reading or players manages to give me hope, while some other times... I'd like to find Machete.

Every FF title ive played is about meeting ppl online or offline, real or npc forming a bond with them and fighting a common enemy. save the world yadayada. the problem is, is when you make it so players dont have to form that bond or even say as much as 1 word to get thru a end game dungeon. it makes a toxic me me me community. yoshi is aware of this. he has his orders though. its just his vision of those orders.

personaly i like reverse trolling. as a tank queing up for a duty like garuda ex and saying this is my first time.
or let the bard who agroed the next pull to run around like a chicken and blame it on lag. cracks me up and makes them sit out for 30 mins lol

I honestly feel like this game's community is worse than any other MMO I have played, including WoW. Just the general selfishness of people is unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

Some people play/do things purely for the enjoyment and experience. They like to have "fun" and do things they normally wouldn't (or couldn't at all) in a fictional world. There's quite a high chance that the toxic of this community are actually fairly nice people IRL (or are just closet d-bags because they're cowardly/afraid of doing these same things to people IRL). It doesn't matter where they came from. It's just how we are.

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And that's a problem. In this game more than any other, I feel way too many people treat each other as nothing more than pixels, rather than actual human beings controlling avatars. To me, the "In real life I'm actually a really nice guy" excuse is 100% meaningless. It doesn't matter. In this game, we are sharing a virtual world with other human beings. The fact that so few people have just common courtesy and basic human respect for each other just cause they are hiding behind avatars is really sad.

This is nothing new. You have these types of players in other games as well. When people were first complaining about Titan HM, there were people selling and trying to fail others attempts at it then also. At least now we have a vote to kick option.

There are some really great people here. Just the bad usually rubs off on the newer people because they think that this is how it's suppose to be done. Don't let other people ruin your fun. Not worth the stress.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

And that's a problem. In this game more than any other, I feel way too many people treat each other as nothing more than pixels, rather than actual human beings controlling avatars. To me, the "In real life I'm actually a really nice guy" excuse is 100% meaningless. It doesn't matter. In this game, we are sharing a virtual world with other human beings. The fact that so few people have just common courtesy and basic human respect for each other just cause they are hiding behind avatars is really sad.

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The friendliness and respect is still here...it's sometimes the whining and pouting can be excessive and gets some of us riled up. (myself included ;p)

community? what community? in ffxiv there is no sense of community> its all about joining duty finder, party finder and fates without being on a party and having to interact with other people. thats what makes ffxiv(2.0) "community" so toxic you dont have the need to make a good name for yourself.

back in 1.0 and ffxi if you were a douche the whole server would know and you would not be able to progress because you would not get an invite to party or an event, so 99% of people were nice, even the elite if not joining to help, would /tell you some advice.

There are trolls and elitists in EVERY community. To think otherwise is very naive.

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Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver

community? what community? in ffxiv there is no sense of community> its all about joining duty finder, party finder and fates without being on a party and having to interact with other people. thats what makes ffxiv(2.0) "community" so toxic you dont have the need to make a good name for yourself.

back in 1.0 and ffxi if you were a douche the whole server would know and you would not be able to progress because you would not get an invite to party or an event, so 99% of people were nice, even the elite if not joining to help, would /tell you some advice.

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This is the case because there are significantly more people playing. All a jerk has to do is go all Assassin's Creed and blend in with the crowd until their transgressions are forgotten.

Make no mistake, however. There are a few people who's douche levels are so high they're known server-wide.

WoW changed the genre, and the players changed with it. Turns out that if you build a game tailored to greedy and selfish mainstream gamers, your community will become filled with greedy and selfish mainstream gamers. Profit over community, as it were.