Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

Great Community, btw!

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Never been any different than any other, tbh.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Thank you for attempting to categorize speech bubbles in the same vein as the other 3rd party tools that the overwhelming majority of the playerbase regularly denounces. In any case, wielding the ToS as a weapon against people you don’t like is still behavior that I’m not willing to put up with.

The FFXIV community already has a strained reputation for being insular and hostile to those who do not tow the line like everyone else, and this is just another example of that. The more takes I read that stem from this controversy the more I want to go off and play FFXI or single player titles because I have very limited patience for the kind of behavior that this situation has let out of the woodwork.

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This forum regularily wields the ToS as a weapon. It's part in parcel with posting on these forums. Thats why theres literally someone who says they would actually break the ToS for the forums to insult me if they knew they could get away with it and not be penalized, because they don't like that I want more chaos and whinging and shit flinging over, and of all things, QoL third part programs and streamers.

I don't get why people say that he advertises the game just by streaming it, and in the same breath say he doesn't advertise mods by using it while streaming. It's kind of a contradiction. That's the agreement on 3rd party tools, right? You don't talk about it, you don't use it for toxicity, you don't advertise it, SE won't enforce it so strictly, but you can't cry if you get caught because you know (and they already told you) it's against the rules.

And let's get this clear, people didn't get mad at him because of his stance on 3rd party tools/mods. People got mad at him because he berated people in his chat, and banned them for disagreeing with him. That only works for certain streamers' audience, and his audience is not one of them. He got a lot of people mad, and he got brigaded for it. The 3rd party stuff was just the ammunition Pyro gave those people to get him banned. He got brigaded, so you can't expect SE to put Pyro against probably at least dozens of reports and say to those reports, "Nah. This is all right."

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

Speech bubbles. Wow. How awful. Alright. I’ll concede on that point no matter how minor.

Tbh. I think you’re just an awful person and someone was right. You kinda suck.

Thankfully you don’t care about my opinion - so do as you please.

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While I would not want Preach to get banned as I like him and his fc very much, speach bubbles are just as rule breaking as any other addon.

They're more likely to get banned if they harassed players in game.

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Originally Posted by Inanegrain

They're more likely to get banned if they harassed players in game.

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More like you're likely to get banned if you were harassed over them at this point...

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

If they actually ban Pyro I'll lose a ton of respect for SE. Yes, yes, sure, you get what you deserve or something. But are they really not going to address targeted reporting? Literal coordination?

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I will say it would suck but Pyromancer the way he was talking to his chat on his video that got deleted makes him look like a PoS and all respect is all gone

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

More like you're likely to get banned if you were harassed over them at this point...

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I don't know how'd that work unless it's meant for witch hunters

Still waiting for an explanation for how getting SE to enforce their own rules by reporting someone for breaking said rules is witch hunting.

Some galactic levels of mental gymnastics going on here.

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Originally Posted by dapperfaffer

I just find it funny

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heres the thing, i dont know much about pyromancer outside of a 15 sec clip

but im not stupid enough to think going "i hope the person i dislike gets banned for any reason" is caring about tos
brigading and mass reporting isnt going to keep "the bad people" out, its going to give this game a bad name and make other mmo communities think we're crazy

reporting pyro for having shinier buttons to press and having (afaik) anger issues is not the win you think its going to be.