Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

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Originally Posted by Zephera

How long would you be willing to wait? 30 minutes? An hour? 2 hours? A new player running into that is going to quit the game, I sure would have. If story content that blocks progress is next to dead what hope is there for content beyond in the eyes of a new player?

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Personally, over an hour wouldn't bug me. Not even two. I'd just read a book while I wait.

Personal opinion aside, if it blocks progress that much, I suspect the new dungeons will go into the Leveling Roulette to solve that problem.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

Refitting the Leveling Roulette to accommodate for 8 player dungeons is very, very simple. It is not this enormous undertaking that has been suggested.

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If they will merge it into any other roulette - it'll be the 50/60 roulette which from my experience a lot less people queue for to begin with.

EDIT: lmao totally forgot about the hest roulette, nm all the rest of what was here

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Originally Posted by Eli85

Personally, over an hour wouldn't bug me. Not even two. I'd just read a book while I wait.

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That's you though. I don't think most people would be willing to wait that long.

EDIT: To further support my point, look at how much people complain about dps queues. This will be a similar problem, only much, much worse.

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That experience you describe still isn't the experience that developers intended for new players. The dungeon feels empty, hollow, and entirely unimmersive if after watching a cut scene, everything is dead.

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I bet the developers also didn't intend for people to just bail or kick newbies out of this dungeon either, but that's still going to happen, and if anything they are facilitating it with this change.

Also, bit of a tangent here, but if they really truly wanted to create a truly authentic experience for new players, they would need to slap a item level 50 cap on it so that everything isn't as faceroll.

I, for one, am very excited for all the "my queue took 5 hours and the tank just left!" kind of threads this will bring out. Gotta wonder what kind of reaction SE was thinking from the playerbase when they thought of this "fix"

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Originally Posted by Eli85

That experience you describe still isn't the experience that developers intended for new players. The dungeon feels empty, hollow, and entirely unimmersive if after watching a cut scene, everything is dead.

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Sometimes it's hard to tell what they intended. Was it immersion? Well, why isn't it solo?
Is it epic boss fights? Well why are there so many cut scenes between them, and why do they give you gear that makes the fights pretty much null and void as far as mechanics?
Was it the cut scenes that were suppose to blow your socks off as an ending to ARR? Well again why not make it solo so no one gets held up or a ruined experience?
Was it all of the above? Well that's uh... Good intentions, but borderline impossible to execute in an MMO.

These two dungeons just sort of highlight that at the time, even after saving the game the devs seriously did not understand MMO's as deeply as they should have.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

In accordance with the above, putting myself in the shoes of a new player, I would rather wait a longer time for these dungeons, if a shorter time means getting yelled at to skip skip skip. S-E, apparently, agrees.

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Hello fellow famfrit resident.

I disagree. I have done the MSQ roulette every day since i started playing again in november. No one tells people to skip. they just leave them behind. Its 2 different things. The people being left behind either skip as well or people wait, up to the player. The fact is the MSQ roulette is too small of a selection in dungeons that ONLY getting Prae or CM means EVERYTIME i queue for it now I HAVE to watch the cutscenes, instead of instructing players (who are willing) to watch it in the Inn

Just cancelled my sub over this. Inexcusably moronic. No justification for this whatsoever. If you wanted to watch the cutscenes, you could do that already, just let the other people clear it. This and 2.1-2.5 are huge bottlenecks in the game already. Making this old trash longer is the opposite of what they should be doing. Everyone saying this will be a nearly insurmountable obstacle in the MSQ now is completely right and it's not hyperbole. People will be sitting in queue for hours and then just log off out of frustration. Unbelievably stupid. Completely ridiculous.

Whatever. Have fun waiting hours I guess. Or have fun paying extra money as a newcomer to buy jump pots. Extra money on top of the game title/expansions and monthly subscription.
Definitely one of the silliest decisions in this game ever.
Even from pure greed standpoint this doesn't make any sense. Jump pots according to SE didn't sell very well. This will make the game more unfriendly and frustrating to newcomers and it can also be considered as a paywall.
A paywall on an already expensive game. This decision doesn't make sense in any way.

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Originally Posted by CaptainOhare

Just cancelled my sub over this. Inexcusably moronic. No justification for this whatsoever. If you wanted to watch the cutscenes, you could do that already, just let the other people clear it. This and 2.1-2.5 are huge bottlenecks in the game already. Making this old trash longer is the opposite of what they should be doing. Everyone saying this will be a nearly insurmountable obstacle in the MSQ now is completely right and it's not hyperbole. People will be sitting in queue for hours and then just log off out of frustration. Unbelievably stupid. Completely ridiculous.

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But...aren't you already past MSQ? Is this a protest?