Final Fantasy 14 is starting to lose appeal because...

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Originally Posted by Phireblast

I think this quote right here sums up what the majority of the dissatisfied side are saying.

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That is understood. The point though is that there is only so much content that SE can make. It's designed to be a broad range of things to do. If someone only enjoys one thing or a very few things they are going to get bored. I fully understand his point but the fact is if you're not into doing lots of things you won't get as much out of the game. I'll read some are only interested in one role for example and don't want to level others. We'll that's fine but when you've fully geared that role and finished the content you're not going to have a lot else to do.

SE can't be making just a lot of things that one person likes to do, they make different things for different tastes and hopefully they'll appeal to most people.

I am still having a lot of fun with Heavensward. I am not a top 10% raider either. The game is fun if you enjoy it and find things to do in it. If you cannot then you should play something else for now.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

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Well, they are coming closer with the airship explorations on 3.1... If they keep their promise, we will soon have more 1-2 players content, chocobos inside dungeons etc. I'd also like retainer battles/guiding, a better way to train them than selecting Field Exploration and wait 18 hours.

Also random-generated dungeon maps with random boss encounters from past dungeons, something like Grand Chase's Eclipse (RIP). NO GEAR rewards, but rare/metal dyes and higher drop rate for rarer items (like Whisker and Forewing).

If a game is totally centered around "gearing" (something that, for people like me who dislikes hardcore content is useless) it's bound to become boring and outdated leaving a billion dungeons/bosses that no one cares or does anymore, and making it a even worse pain for new players to get into the game.

Airship explorations look like glorified treasure hunts to me, but feel free to prove me wrong SE.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

That is understood. The point though is that there is only so much content that SE can make. It's designed to be a broad range of things to do. If someone only enjoys one thing or a very few things they are going to get bored. I fully understand his point but the fact is if you're not into doing lots of things you won't get as much out of the game. I'll read some are only interested in one role for example and don't want to level others. We'll that's fine but when you've fully geared that role and finished the content you're not going to have a lot else to do.

SE can't be making just a lot of things that one person likes to do, they make different things for different tastes and hopefully they'll appeal to most people.

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Try to level Chocobo from 19 to 20
Try to level PvP rank from 44 to 45
Try to breed a racing Chocobo

That is exactly the problem, SE is FORCING us to only do one single thing even if we like to do "other" things too...

Players dont get bored from "nothing to do", they are getting frustrated from "no progress whatever they do" and frustration results in throwing the content away...
When too much is thrown away you find yourself login in, doing daily and logout because you just do one single thing and getting bored...
Just look at some achievements, what is SE thinking how many time we are spending "gaming"?
Most of the time when SE is coming up with a time schedule we have to make the "game" into a part time job.

In most games on higher levels where xp gain becomes a long time farming, they add some distraction as an ability system where you can level your companions or skills to have something with lower level to level up. That way you can forget about the big delay from your high level main character and have some progress with shorter time farming... In FFXIV we have many to do, but everything stands alone, we can not ride the racing chocobo and level it while we fight and level ourselfs (character level the high farm grind while racing chocobo can be the faster farm), we can not level our pvp while having our chocobo companion out (pvp rank the high farm grind while chocobo can be the faster farm)...

Its losing its a appeal because everybody ripped through the expansion, mostly only play one job, what else is there for them to do....

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Originally Posted by BubblyBoar

Aren't.....we getting new content in 3.1? As in something we never had before? Airship explorations are a totally new thing aren't they? They are open world too, not instanced. So.....???? What are the complaints about, it not being here right now?

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How do we know it's not going to be instanced though? Even if the area can hold upto 100+ players, it's still instanced if you can't go through a zone line and access the area, and since they said you'd go to Ishgard and speak to some dude to access the zone the exploration, it's likely to be "instanced". I'm being an ass though, if it can hold more than 30 players and is a very wide open map, where we can actually drive the airships I'll be happy (or at least get to ride on them and not just some loading screen to the next island).

I think when people ask for open world content they mean content in preexisting areas though. You know, the areas the dev team spent so much development time on, only for us to never go there again on our level 60 battle classes. :p I don't think Hunts are a viable solution in the future either, it's not fun content. Back near the launch of 3.0 areas with a hunt monster were so packed that loading would sometimes take 30+ seconds, and that only delayed getting to the hunt so it was pulled and many people missed out, only leading to them bickering among each other. Hunts initiated by a party of 8 by picking up a hunt from the board and then finding clues in the area (or a treasure map like system) summoning the hunt, and then taking it down with your party of 8 would be a better way to do them imho.

No game can keep people entertained 24/7, true. I dont expect any game to be able to do that.

I think ffxi is ok and I enjoy other games as well. They all have something I enjoy....to a degree.

Does ffxiv stand out as something "special"? I would have to say no, to me its an average MMO, fair enough. :D

Allowing us to gather 450 tomes on each job/week would have been nice imo PAIRED WITH alternate ways to gather them that involves outdoor content (hunts? or a brand new idea??)

I also know that the many housing suggestions I have made in the past would have kept people occupied for huge amounts of time.
Designing a zone and home from scratch takes months to finish with stunning results and would have kept me (any anyone who is creative) occupied far more then the 0 amount of time I spend with housing now.

Housing went from something potentially exciting to a very basic, and quite frankly a boring few minutes. Average.

Again that's just my personal beef. I am hugely grateful to other games for what se lacks, but still appreciate that this game is "ok".

Its not that ffxiv is losing its appeal to me, my standards of what to expect for entertainment have just lowered to se's.

It simply doesn't bring the best from other games into it ..they did add flying and I love that and they did an excellent job it that.

They should have grabbed the # of raids/dungeons from wow, the housing and glamour/dye from Rift, the amount of outdoor content and sheer variety from ffxi, etc.... to make it actually stand out as different from the rest.

I realized over the past while that se is happy with an average game though, so there's just no point hoping for better or wasting time trying to suggest fun things. Make the best of what we are tossed and run with it for as long as you can.

FFXIV imo is going to do just fine over time, but not exceed baseline in content or desgin. They are happy with that, which is cool ,it is their game.

Enjoy it for a couple things and that has to be good enough.

Again, just realizing it will remain average. :D

I've turned super casual and have focused entirely on one job instead of mass leveling all my classes like I did in 1.0 > 2.0. I do my daily and I log off to find another game to play. I'll continue supporting and playing FFXIV, but I crave new content. Not rehashed expert dungeons and crystal tower with a hint of primals. We need something NEW. Really. It's easier said then done, but I reaaaaally crave something new all together.

Problem is 2015 now.
If you look at brightside another game is pretty much same staff, but different storyline.
FPS still FPS with shoot people
Car race still just with better look
Sport still just with better look
MMO still lvl char and kill mob/other and farm and raid
Fighting game still beat crap out each another