CT is dead, please fix

Is the q times for ultima HM and Diablos really long? I still have those in quest journal and never tried to do those yet...

Oh and I still havn't done any of the ex primals. I basically whent throut main storyline accessed ishguard and started doing all HW content and sorta skiped over that stuff, maybe I need to go back and do that stuff.

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Originally Posted by T2teddy

So the very first time you ever did any of the CT raids, you just telepathically 'saw' how the fights were supposed to go and never made a mistake? Rigghhtt lol
Watching the video guides may help some people who are visual learners but many need to be told how it goes and then learn hands on.

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You completely missed the point. CT is tedious enough to run back when it was still hot shit to farm gear and it's most likely to be more tedious when you want it to be relevant again. You teach people to do stuff, they're incompetent to comprehend simple mechanics and the fact that there are assholes pressing vote abandon every single wipe on simple shit like bone dragon, scylla and angra mainyu

NOPE. CRYSTAL TOWER NEVER AGAIN

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Originally Posted by Escha

You completely missed the point. CT is tedious enough to run back when it was still hot shit to farm gear and it's most likely to be more tedious when you want it to be relevant again. You teach people to do stuff, they're incompetent to comprehend simple mechanics and the fact that there are assholes pressing vote abandon every single wipe on simple shit like bone dragon, scylla and angra mainyu

NOPE. CRYSTAL TOWER NEVER AGAIN

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You act like all the other raid content is better.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

No, it shouldn't. Sorry.

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Yes, it should. Good talk.

Better than CT that's for sure. CT was only made for people who were too bad for coil.

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Originally Posted by Escha

You completely missed the point. CT is tedious enough to run back when it was still hot shit to farm gear and it's most likely to be more tedious when you want it to be relevant again.

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The opposite is true. It was tedious because you had to run it for gear and weapon upgrades. People felt forced to put up with it even if they were utterly sick of it, leading to a lot of trolling out of boredom.

Adding minor incentives now won't have the same effect. You can earn exp and tomestones in many different ways, so anyone who gets sick of CT can just do something else. Even if the new relic quest requires it, it'll still be easier (and more optional) than getting upgrade items for all your gear slots.

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Originally Posted by Escha

CT was only made for people who were too bad for coil.

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Something tells me you were one of the people wiping groups on easy mechanics and then initiating vote abandon. Obvious troll, 3/10.

Ok i think people dont understand here (and my bad english isnt gonna help xD), but we want like at least a roulette to make them active again, if they gave to you exp or tomes its allright, nobody say lets grind that sh*t over and over again like old times!

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Originally Posted by seorin

Something tells me you were one of the people wiping groups on easy mechanics and then initiating vote abandon. Obvious troll, 3/10.

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IGN - so obvious she calls herself an Elitist, 4/10 for graphics

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Originally Posted by seorin

The opposite is true. It was tedious because you had to run it for gear and weapon upgrades. People felt forced to put up with it even if they were utterly sick of it, leading to a lot of trolling out of boredom.

Adding minor incentives now won't have the same effect. You can earn exp and tomestones in many different ways, so anyone who gets sick of CT can just do something else. Even if the new relic quest requires it, it'll still be easier (and more optional) than getting upgrade items for all your gear slots.

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If the incentive is too great people will feel obligated to run it to the point of tedium. If the incentive is "minor" then people still won't bother doing it enough to revive the queue times.

We need to accept that content can't stay relevant forever. Even if SE did "fix" CT by finding a way to force people to run it again it would only be a temporary solution. As soon as people stop chasing the newest carrot we'll be right back to complaining about long queue times on outdated content.

The only thing they should do is give us the option to Unsync it. Adding the CT Trio to the roulette or making it part of the 3.0 relic as ways to "fix" it are bad ideas for a multitude of reasons.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

If the incentive is too great people will feel obligated to run it to the point of tedium. If the incentive is "minor" then people still won't bother doing it enough to revive the queue times.

We need to accept that content can't stay relevant forever. Even if SE did "fix" CT by finding a way to force people to run it again it would only be a temporary solution. As soon as people stop chasing the newest carrot we'll be right back to complaining about long queue times on outdated content.

The only thing they should do is give us the option to Unsync it. Adding the CT Trio to the roulette or making it part of the 3.0 relic as ways to "fix" it are bad ideas for a multitude of reasons.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by seorin

Something tells me you were one of the people wiping groups on easy mechanics and then initiating vote abandon. Obvious troll, 3/10.

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Oh just completely ignore my point and just dismiss it as a "trol"l, great post. And 24 man is catered towards people who can't keep up with coil is it not?

I'd like to see at least the ability to run these unsynched. I'd like to 130 several pieces of Poetics gear and weapons for glamour purposes, but most of my current playgroup never did FCOB. If we could run these unsynched it would at least make running the weekly a possible thing again. (Though CT would probably need to be retooled, as the Atomos fight wouldn't be passable without a minimum of 15 people (4 for each pad and 1 person to solo each maw).