Dear SE, Yoshi, etc, remove Coil lock outs. Right now.

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Originally Posted by NoRyoKu

Alright then, not on my server at least but i trust you. And the one buying the run must be capable of doing something, not dying at the start and hope they pass it no?

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Yup you can check them here

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Coil-Carries
http://solitude.guildwork.com/forum/...ll-runs-thread

Anyway I'm pretty certain that they get the player buying the run to die at the start. Can't have people randomly getting stoned in t7 now eh?

But I have to agree with you, the number of grps selling these runs are very little at the moment but as more grps get geared this will become more common.

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Originally Posted by skaterger

Yup you can check them here

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Coil-Carries
http://solitude.guildwork.com/forum/...ll-runs-thread

Anyway I'm pretty certain that they get the player buying the run to die at the start. Can't have people randomly getting stoned in t7 now eh?

But I have to agree with you, the number of grps selling these runs are very little at the moment but as more grps get geared this will become more common.

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Gearing isn't the only thing to be able to sell these runs thou, having a strategy to be able to constantly and reliably 7 man all 4 turns is a bigger factor :)

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Originally Posted by NoRyoKu

Alright then, not on my server at least but i trust you. And the one buying the run must be capable of doing something, not dying at the start and hope they pass it no?

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Generally they are buying the loot, not the clear. Money is paid up front and they are expected to stand in front of the boss and die immediately so as not to cause complications.

If they removed coil lockouts, an entire raid would be able to get 8 i115 weapons in two days :p.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

If they removed coil lockouts, an entire raid would be able to get 8 i115 weapons in two days :p.

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Then let them.

Playing with your friends>some people getting geared in 2 days.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

If they removed coil lockouts, an entire raid would be able to get 8 i115 weapons in two days :p.

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They could implement a personal loot system, lock that down to once per boss per every reset, and then remove the instance locks altogether. That would solve your problems with people getting "Geared too fast (who cares?)" and let people run content multiple times if they want to help friends later on. This is what is being phased into other games and it's working great. This is one of those places where SE doesn't really need to reinvent the wheel. These growing pains have already been experienced and solved.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

If they removed coil lockouts, an entire raid would be able to get 8 i115 weapons in two days :p.

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When you make a lockout, that you can only loot at your first kill of the week, than this will not happen and what you are able to loot has the same RNG, like now.

This way would also eleminate following abusing: Players group up for T6 but one is already in T7, 8 or 9 and is locking all the others out from playing and looting T6 the week.

I don't know if it was already proposed but maybe something a lockout on rolling any loot once you defeated a turn would be a good trade off.

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

When you make a lockout, that you can only loot at your first kill of the week, than this will not happen and what you are able to loot has the same RNG, like now.

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Let's say theoretically:

8 players have 2 characters each that are mirrors of each other.
7 of them play their "dummy characters" and funnel all the gear to the 8th slot person, then the 8th slot switches with someone who was playing a dummy and funnel the gear again to the next person.

Current case: 1 stone, 1-2 oils, 1-2 sands plus loot each week shared for 8 people.
"Loot lockout" on clear + unlimited re-entry: Switching to secondary characters allows 8 people to get each of their mirrored characters 1 stone and 1-2 oils, 1-2 sands plus all loot per week.

They would have to change the distribution somewhat.

Sure, not everyone could do this, but it's still a possibility to account for.

You know, in other games there is enough content to raid something different every night. Raids are large, so gearing still takes a while.

This is an issue here because there is so little content to run and raid groups are so tiny.