For the most part I have been enjoying the new content and exploring the new instances however I see the ATMA fates as a huge time suck so I just don't bother wasting my time on them. I'll catch a fate here and there if I run across one on my travels but I just do not see the point of spending hours upon hours like many of my LS mates only to log at the end of the night with nothing to show for it. The Zodiac quest just seems lazily implemented IMO.
2.2 has sucked all the fun out of the game...
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04-10-2014, 08:23 AM72Devilz
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04-10-2014, 09:16 AMGoodberry
I like 2.2, particularly the 3 new dungeons, very fun.
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04-10-2014, 09:54 AMOMEGAlomania
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/1...est_violin.gif
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But seriously, i'm getting bored of these posts. People moaned and complained that nothing required work, everything was too easy, they had no reason to go to old zones, they wanted reasons to keep playing on more than 1 day a week, and this patch started to remedy that (and not just with Atma). The drop rate MIGHT be a bit too low sure (i've not seen an official stat on what it is actually set to, so I can't give a proper opinion on that), but this is definately a (admittedly small) step in the right direction of providing longer term content that will keep people invested. This stuff was never meant to be farmed in one shot, it's SUPPOSED to be a long term goal that you dabble in every so often. And i'm loving the effect it's having on making lower level areas feel even more alive than they already were.
And if you don't want to do it, fine, just do Coil every week for your gear like you always have... nobody is making you. -
04-10-2014, 09:54 AMcoffeepotz
Love 2.2, Can't complain about nothing to do haha.
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04-10-2014, 11:07 AMLamentations
[QUOTE=OMEGAlomania;2021320]http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/1...est_violin.gif
:P
But seriously, i'm getting bored of these posts. People moaned and complained that nothing required work, everything was too easy, they had no reason to go to old zones, they wanted reasons to keep playing on more than 1 day a week, and this patch started to remedy that (and not just with Atma).
Except this isn't what either casuals or hardcore players want, what they want is easy mode/hardcore patches consisting of the content volume equivalent of the old novel "War and Peace" every 3 months or threaten ragequit.
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04-11-2014, 09:52 AMdarkstarpoet1this is exactly where i stand with 2.2. i am loving it and i have something to do every single day instead of playing one day a week and then logging off for the next 6. i am glad they gave the atma quest and as soon as i finish books to get my blm anubis i'm starting on my scholar weapon next.Quote:
Originally Posted by coffeepotz
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04-11-2014, 10:08 AMFynlarTechnically speaking, this is accurate. The problem is that there isn't anything I feel like doing. Mindless FATE spam + competing against RNG for *twelve*(?!) drops just isn't fun to me, and most of the new content is gated behind other content that I've yet to be able to beat.Quote:
Can't complain about nothing to do haha.
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04-11-2014, 01:28 PMBMihawk
Every patch there are always the minority/majority few that complains that the game is too grindy. Why? Its usually because they feel they are lagging behind. There are still quests and stuffs you still need to do before you can complete/attempt instances in 2.2. Like for example:
1. Have you killed Twintania? Well no ? Then work on it. Its 2.1 content but its a a GAME content that you have to do to get into 2nd coil of Bahamut. Its not like you killed Twintania 20 times before 2.2. Well NO. If you cant attempt it blame on no one but yourself. Its easier with party finder. Just open a practice party. Filter the players lacking in skills. Open a linkshell and get the good ones to practice with. Sooner or later you get into a static and things get more fun.
2. Gears. It was exactly the same with 2.1. We still need to farm for myth with weekly lock of 450. We still have 2 loots per turn every week and pray for good RNG. Its the same. So why complain now? Again. Because they are lacking so far back. They just want SE to put them in the same starting point with players who make an effort to gear and clear content. Really? #NOYOLOSWAG. Gears in 2.1 are not deemed obsolete in 2.2. You need them to attempt 2.2 content. Just progress nicely and you be able to get into content sooner rather than later.
3. Primals. Before Extreme. It was Hard Mode. Most people couldn't even get past Titan without a carry paying millions of gil for it. Then Extreme came. People pay for it. Well. Cant do Levi ? Its the same cycle since 2.1. So why complain now ? Why.. Because again lacking in game. Others are already clearing and farming it while you cant attempt it because you slack during 2.1. Casuals problem? Well i know a lot of casual players in game who could get their weapons and stuffs. They don't log in 24/7. They have jobs and kids to be responsible for. So whats your reason?
Its funny seeing people complain about content. Well SE did not obligate you to play, so whats stopping you? Don't complain about stuff being grindy, its too difficult, its too long.
Farming fates for ATMA? Goodness Gracious. Its not even a month since 2.2 and people are complaining about the drops. The next patch is in 3 months. Its suppose to sustain you for 3 months. If content are suppose to be done in a week or two. Its going to get boring and more players will quit. Its all about sustainability. Take your time. Don't get burnt out doing content. People with ilvl100 weapons, SO? Play it at your own phase. Just so you are able to clear content and go on to the next patch.
Personally for me i don't even bother with getting server first or world first? Why? Because there is still more to outside life than achieving those stuffs in game. Your friends quitting but you love this game ? Leave the FC, leave your friends. If your friends are only restricted to online communications and not outside life then i feel sorry for you and your friends. Leave them and join another FC/group. A FC/group that is willing to bring new players and tackle new content together. Sticking around for a friend has brought me no where in game. Finally i made the decision to go solo and find 7 others to form a static. Finally. After so long. Just after 2.2. We got our finalised 8. It was long but it was worth it. -
04-13-2014, 05:46 AMJinkoAll true, but if you think about it, many people have been trying to defeat Titan EX for months and it is a massive roadblock to being able to enjoy the new primals. (Echo serves as almost zero help in this fight)Quote:
Originally Posted by whoopeeragon
Now you may say well you don't deserve to fight Moogle and Levi ex if you can't beat Titan, but both fights aren't anywhere near as hard as Titan Ex, its really odd game design to put easier content after harder content and has locked out a huge portion of the player base from enjoying the so called "new" content.
The 3 new dungeons are all great but extremely easy and have devolved into speed run rinse and repeat rubbish.
Coil 2 being locked out if you haven't beat Twintania is fine IMO because there is a understandable progression there, but I don't see why this is the case with Primals.