It's become a chore to even log on to the game

I liked all the EQ expansions up to Ykesha... and GoD and OOW were terrible.

The reason I loved the expansions is because they expanded a world that I found to be intriguing and I loved finding out more of the lore..... the world in this game is pretty one dimensional...

EQ had Gods, elementals... famous characters and wars... this world has a giant talking crystal... an empire that is defeated... and I kinda would have sided with them if I had the choice... and a problem with people repeatedly summoning primals over and over, because they have nothing better to do- which the empire would have put a stop to...

RoZ, CoP and WotG were all brilliant. The quality didn't really start going downhill until the mini-add ons (all of which were horrible, but they were also made by original design lead in XI and it showed) and then pretty much the fallout of Abyssea.

I maintain Abyssea was actually well done and fun - I thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of it. But it was too much coming down from such a high, back into the older more grindy (and far less rewarding) content that was the nail in the coffin for me. Namely Void Watch - it was utterly horrible, and when I saw the 1000 plates requirement for 95 Empyreans I lost my ****. It wasn't so much that abyssea destroyed everything, but XI had had its level cap in place for a solid 7 years and so it was a bit too much of a shock to have all that content nullified in a single patch. Had it been a gradual thing I think it would have gone over much more smoothly with the community because you can't honestly tell me that Abyssea wasn't fun - Running around with Atma and Cruor buffs, 18-man EXP parties that finally did away with job discrimination (for the most part anyway) - I almost never saw PUP or BST in groups before that. The whole weakness targeting thing was nifty as well since it gave use to a lot of older, forgotten skills and weird stuff like melee WHM was actually encouraged (Hexa Strike could do a loooooooot of damage with the right gear and atma).

But again, everything after that just felt... "meh". Abyssea was the sort of thing that should have come at the end of XI's life, as one final hurrah for ****s and giggles. That may have even been the original intent considering XIV was just getting ready to launch at the time, and then once it bombed I guess the XI devs probably thought "Uh, crap, what do we do now?"


But that's enough about XI. The main point I continue to make is that XI, for all its failings did a lot of things right and maintained a steady flow of subscribers for years, whereas all these other post-WoW MMOs made all kinds of fancy promises and looked great and then they all fell upon their own swords less than a year or 2 later. I don't want that to happen to this game too.

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Originally Posted by NefGP

whereas all these other post-WoW MMOs made all kinds of fancy promises and looked great and then they all fell upon their own swords less than a year or 2 later. I don't want that to happen to this game too.

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.......again.

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Originally Posted by Mihael_Longclaw

I want this game to be succesful, but it doesn't have my support.
Hope everyone else can enjoy the game for what it's worth, I couldn't and cancelled my sub.

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cool story bro

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Constructive critism, it's what the MMO industry has been crying out for, it's why they put questionaires in subscription cancellation and why they are encouraging people to come forward and explain why they are unhappy.

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I'm confused by this post. You claim what you said in that long post of yours previously is providing "constructive criticism" but all you did was complain? That's like most of the posts on these forums about this same topic and even the OP is all just whining and complaining. Nothing constructive has been given.

For those of you who don't like the game in its current state then why don't you provide some actual "constructive criticism" rather than just say "this game sucks because of blah blah blah." Negative feedback =\= constructive criticism if you actually see potential in something.

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Originally Posted by Edellis

cool story bro

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You're so clever . . .

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Originally Posted by Vensaval

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You're so clever . . .

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What else is one supposed to respond with?

Is he trying to spark an argument or something? What good advice about wine could you get from someone who clearly just wants soda? Constructive Criticism =/= Entitlement to the rights of development. MMO Forums love to do threads like this, and as a person who used to do the same thing, it's just a complete waste of time for everybody.

He needs to just quit, leave the forums, and look for a game that wont disappoint him. He can pray over and over that this one will eventually change, but lets face it. We all know it wont.

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What else is one supposed to respond with?

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Well, you could always... you know... not type up a reply and hit enter?

Here is what people are conveniently forgetting, since they just want to berate the OP:

When SE asked for feedback from us since 1.0 was a failure, and when they continually ask for more feedback, and then go on to tell us that our feedback was received and was used to make certain decisions, it fostered the thinking among the playerbase that our continued feedback is important and will be looked at.

Now, when some of you give 'feedback' about loot drops, or lockouts, or nerfing old content... How is that ANY different than what this OP was doing?

I agree with the OP, and with a lot of the other threads recently that don't like the direction the game is taking. Too much vertical progression, not enough variety, not enough story, doesn't feel like Final Fantasy.

I too am thinking about quitting when my sub runs out. Until then, I'm going to continue playing. My husband plays, and I have some friends in our ls, but I'm getting the feeling that the game is NOT for me, and never will be.

We come here to give our feedback because we've been conditioned to believe that our feedback is desired and will be looked at. We come here to give our feedback because the team that gave us 1.23 is the team working on 2.0 and we know that they can do better than what we're currently getting. We come here to give our feedback in hopes of finding people of like mind, or even different mind, but that are capable of having a grown up discussion instead of just saying 'cool story bro.'

You tell the OP he's wrong for posting here for x and y reason, but if that's the case, why are you even posting in his thread? Let's throw some of your own advice back at you: "If the thread isn't for you, just leave and find one that is."

Sheesh, I've been saving this up for days. I kept starting a post, but stopping because it's not worth it, and it still isn't worth it, but I can't keep my mouth shut anymore.

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We come here to give our feedback because we've been conditioned to believe that our feedback is desired and will be looked at. We come here to give our feedback because the team that gave us 1.23 is the team working on 2.0 and we know that they can do better than what we're currently getting.

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For better or worse, the dev team has done a stellar job in making this game hyper-accessible and familiar to WoW players -- which is necessary for making it a financial success (at least short term)

Now that they have the WoW players subbing, I hope they branch out from this 'marketing phase' and start incorporating some of the great design concepts that FFXI and FFXIV 1.23 had and make this game a long-term success.