Do you respect or awed by level 50? No?

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Originally Posted by Hitome

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Indeed, i also have a tank, healer, and dps. Healing is the hardest job of them all, especially when people can't freakin dodge. But tanking isn't stressful...at all...its mostly boring. Garuda got me to move around a bit but for the most part there isn't anything difficult about it. DPS is a job I play when i just don't feel like being in the spotlight anymore. plus as a monk i kind of like punching things. really tired of tanks who think they have the hardest job in the game lol.

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Originally Posted by Hitome

You have been in Turn 5 yet have not beaten it. You claim this game is easy. This seems to be a contradiction.

Tanking is not stressful at all once the fight is learned. Learning a fight is stressful for everyone.

I have all three roles leveled. Healing is by far more stressful than the other two combined. DPS is only stressful if you seek to maximize DPS. Tanking is nothing in comparison.

It isn't surprising that you have no difficulty in turn 1-4 as BLM given the above. Think I'm biased? Think again: my main is BLM.

You seem to have trouble with Titan Ex, though. I do not find him to be difficult. Are you a person who also uses enrage for turn 2? :)

You have no tank leveled. You cannot speak for tanks in endgame content. You are assumed to use SMN as well meaning you have no healer leveled. You cannot speak for healers in endgame content.

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I have a paladin, I have whm, and sch all at 50.

I do whatever the party wants to do for the turns.

Titan I have lag with. I have sent in a report to Verizon and SE. This problem where everyone stops for 3 seconds then everything goes off, never happens in any other fight.

Like I said before 1 fight does not make up for the rest of the game. 1 other fight being only difficult because of Lag is not something anyone should use as an example.

This thread made me die a little in side. You are not a special cookie.Your bowel movements smell just as bad as everyone else's.You do not deserve awe and respect. You freaking earn respect. Anyone who thinks they deserve acknowledgement because they got lucky on a roll in a video game is a disgusting arrogant self centered human being.

I show some level of basic courtesy and respect towards others unless they give me a valid reason not to.

An arrogant blowhard with an ego the size of twelve moons who belittles who they deem insignificant and weaker than they are, is as valid as it gets.

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Originally Posted by gadenp

Why do people need respect or to be awed at high level.

I once was impressed by high level gamers, then I started working. There are so many things more worth someone's respect then a person that can grind up some top level gear.

I mean, if you have it, good for you. But you are not getting respect from me for being top level and having some digital loot.

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Pfft I bet you would fall down on your knees in front of a Burtgang Aegis paladin in FFXI! Anyone with a myth weapon (except the BST one) was quite the sight. They get first priority in any end-game event. Their weapon usually costed around 600 mil or more and you had to invest a LOT of time doing side quests for months and camp NMs in the these deep, open-world (yes, YOU CANNOT DUTY FINDER THIS....) humongous deadly zones with key-doors switch mechanics that required two groups that required a raid to defeat that would never spawn for weeks to complete the quests for the myth weapon. I was actually part of a group that locked themselves in the troll room for weeks (They lock themselves in there because warping out meant having to spend another 30 mins-1hr). FF14 beast zones are a pre-school playground play-house compared to these. I could never imagine doing that at lvl 75 because you would need a full alliance (18 people) to do it vs the 99 cap. And that is the difference from FFXI to FF14 right now. There is really no segregation of people based on their gear yet because the difference between allagan/primal/myth gear is so miniscule. Blame the DEVs for making Myth gear the same ilvl as current best in slot gear... just doesn't make sense to give that access to people who don't really earn it the right way. As someone mentioned before, it is a business move to make everyone happy so people don't leave so early and they pull in more casual subscribers for the sake of money. Once they increase the gap between hard-core content and casual content (nerfed myth gear), respect will be pouring out of everywhereeee!!!! People don't understand what the OP means by in awe or respect. It means admiring someone with gear and skill that you would never even dream of coming close to within a short amount of time.

It is just matter of time. They are just trying to figure out how to implement it. They will because WoW hired a guy from EQ #1 raiding guild to create there hardest content that only 1% of players would ever achieve. If Yoshida is hell-bent on following WoW (he said it influenced him), he will implement it. I think anyone who does not understand the respect/awe/adulation factor is not in the wrong, but they are ignorant because they seem to diss the reason why that content even exists. It is so the people will, for whatever reason, be the best in the game and seperate themselves from people who don't play as much. In FFXI, the best of the best get access to super-bad ass weapon skills. If you saw someone using some instant-KO spell or a 8-hit sword weapon skill with a 10 second animation you would never get access to for years... I think you would probably fall head over heels for them. And the weaponskill grants them a triple quadruple attack effect. If you don't give a rat's butt about it, then fine. It just means you do not care and you are probably going to move to another MMO. If you were in FFXI, and there was a raid even that said myth/relic weapons only, and you only had a normal weapon. Would your opnion matter? No. And that is why hardcore opinion does not matter right now because FF14 is has no gear to support this arguement. When they implement content that requires allagan weapon only, we will start seeing the game go in the right direction. No one is barred from content at the moment in FF14, so no one has any respect for end-gaming.

I think these forums are really bad at making some opinions that should NOT even be pertinent matter. If there's one thing I am noticing, these forums make casual opinion seem like only way things are done, but it is only one side of the coin. I guarantee all these people wanting a DF-raid casual myth gear MMO are going to quit.

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Originally Posted by Devilray

I think anyone who does not understand the respect/awe/adulation factor is not in the wrong, but they are ignorant because they seem to diss the reason why that content even exists. It is so the people will, for whatever reason, be the best in the game and seperate themselves from people who don't play as much.

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Wait wait wait. Wasn't it to have fun with a personal/group challenge and be proud of your own achievement once you beat it? Damn it, I must have been playing wrong!

FYI, most athletes and other competitive people (that's it, the humble ones worth admiring) want to improve as a matter of personal superation, not to tell their rivals how they're way better/superior than them, or to have people respecting/adulating/worshiping them. That's how some new world records happen. Just a little side thought.

I remember a vaguely infamous guy in FFXI who got his BRD Relic and promptly went to sell his character to the dismay of this HLS.
I suppose I should be in awe of such people for managing to "scam" so much people :o

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

Wait wait wait. Wasn't it to have fun with a personal/group challenge and be proud of your own achievement once you beat it? Damn it, I must have been playing wrong!

FYI, most athletes and other competitive people (that's it, the humble ones worth admiring) want to improve as a matter of personal superation, not to tell their rivals how they're way better/superior than them, or to have people respecting/adulating/worshiping them. That's how some new world records happen. Just a little side thought.

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I think you took my comment slightly out of context. The best athlete will workout constantly... isn't that to win the competition? Sure, some are "special" in that they just love doing it. You may view it as personal superation if you will, but the end result is seperating yourself from the competition. And that is a sport event. We are talking about a MMO where we kill monsters and wear shiny gear as a fashion statement that improve our stats further. FF14's flaw is that it does not allow you to seperate yourself from the competition. For example, to be a marathon runner and do it for respect and adulation is completely wrong. It would take forever to explain, but like you said, that example is pure personal superation as you suggested. But in our case, the best example would be movies/stories where the princesses and nobles in the castle adore the warriors that come back after winning the war. They are the talk of the party and get all the ladies at night... So, I hope you get my point. Some people actually do do sports for the ladies/money sometimes... They just happened to be talented/blessed genetically to be so good at what they do. Some people might have worked every hard for their own reasons, while others just happened to do it for less-ethically moral reasons and were lucky enough to be blessed to be quite skilled at it.

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Originally Posted by Devilray

Pfft I bet you would fall down on your knees in front of a Burtgang Aegis paladin in FFXI! Once they increase the gap between hard-core content and casual content (nerfed myth gear), respect will be pouring out of everywhereeee!!!!

People don't understand what the OP means by in awe or respect. It means admiring someone with gear and skill that you would never even dream of coming close to within a short amount of time.

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L M A O. /10char

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Originally Posted by Devilray

So, I hope you get my point. Some people actually do sports for the ladies sometimes...

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You may start the sports/guitar/whatever for the ladies but if you aim to be the best, you got to have some other motivations.
People will only respect the real deal, not some show off posers.
I don't mind the OP proposals, I just find the reasons shallow and stupid.