It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

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Oh I get people get reported for a lot of different things, but the aspect of report means nothing if no action was taken. People are free to report another for whatever reason, but if no action is taken due to said report then the report seems moot at that point. Also in terms of harrassment SE does seem to be fairly heavy handied, I made a comment in game to another player and got a three day suspension. I just think in SE cases just because someone reported someone without any evidence it seems their hands are tied.

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Ah I get what you are saying. Yea that is also true. Maybe they reported you maybe they didn't. It does all depend if the GM thinks it's warranted or if they are having a day of "everyone is going to the gaol today!"

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Originally Posted by Arillyn

I don't have a dog in this fight. I can see where both sides are coming from. I'd rather the devs not use their resources on this because I believe if you don't like someone's glamour (and there have been some I've seen that I've been like "um.. no.. ew") you can walk away. Like I have. Also, I've not really seen that many glams that are truly offensive. A couple yes, but I've been playing since 1.0 and even after the glam system was put in place I can count on one hand the time I've ever seen a truly offensive glam. And I just walked away so I didn't have to see it. So just anecdotally I don't think this is really that big of a deal for the devs to implement this. I mean if they do I'll smh at it, shrug my shoulders and move on. My glamours are for me so I don't have to be in hideous looking gear. Ultimately it's the devs choice what they implement and don't because it's their game.

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The point is that you can't walk away during an instanced event. You're stuck with the other person unless you decide to drop and inconvenience yourself and that group. While I do agree that this is the developers game, they don't really get a choice on what they implement. The number of things they've apologized for or backtracked on due to fan outrage is proof of that.

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Originally Posted by Joven

I don't disagree about the skewed metrics, but it's all we've got. So far I've seen roughly equal positive/negative replies as far new people entering and replying. Usually the 'pro' replies make their comment and that's it. They usually don't stay and continue so it appears as though there are more negetive.

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I would say that's both sides equally. Unless you have hard numbers proving this, you're just speculating in favor of those wanting the feature. Again, a biased opinion. I have seen plenty in favor of this feature sticking around for the past 30 or 40 pages. Yourself included.

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Originally Posted by Joven

The point is that you can't walk away during an instanced event. You're stuck with the other person unless you decide to drop and inconvenience yourself and that group. While I do agree that this is the developers game, they don't really get a choice on what they implement. The number of things they've apologized for or backtracked on due to fan outrage is proof of that.

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Well I mean... you can. People leave instances all the time. Honestly I've never been bothered by anyone's glams in an instance. The handful of times I've seen a really offensive glamour was in one of the starter cities (probably Limsa but I can't actually recall). I mean I guess they could make it so glamours don't work in instances but that would make me very unhappy if it affects my own glamour that I see in the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

We downplay the likes because of the number of dislikes. We are not shocked that 100 people want to waste developers time. That is normal. I mean even lets say 30 percent of the player base wanted this feature. (i doubt it.) It can be twisted around to say..It is unfair to that 30 percent who pay blah blah blah.


Point is, it is a bad idea. Your reasons for wanting it is not good enough, and that is that.

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Contrast the OP's amount of likes with the amount of likes that are on the first poster who opposed the idea(they are the 4th post on the thread). That's your like/dislike ratio. The results of like vs dislike seems to be pretty evenly split, which is part of why this topic has reached so many pages(roughly 50% for 50% against).

Honestly, I learned something from all this though. It seems some people's vain desires to show off to everyone trump their empathy for other people's freedom of choice. I did not expect so many people to be opposed to this in my wildest dreams considering it doesn't hurt anyone, but here we are.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

Contrast the OP's amount of likes with the amount of likes that are on the first poster who opposed the idea(they are the 4th post on the thread). That's your like/dislike ratio. The results of like vs dislike seems to be pretty evenly split, which is part of why this topic has reached so many pages(roughly 50% for 50% against).

Honestly, I learned something from all this though. It seems some people's vain desires to show off to everyone trump their empathy for other people's freedom of choice. I did not expect so many people to be opposed to this in my wildest dreams considering it doesn't hurt anyone, but here we are.

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That is silly because you can focus all your likes in one place, many people said no, and that is spread out with others. Just like all the people saying no and the likes it got..will add up to be way more than 100 i would bet.


Either way, 100 likes is not that much for such an amazing idea <.< lol.

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Originally Posted by Jadedsins

That is silly because you can focus all your likes in one place, many people said no, and that is spread out with others. Just like all the people saying no and the likes it got..will add up to be way more than 100 i would bet.


Either way, 100 likes is not that much for such an amazing idea <.< lol.

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Those who dislike it will place a like on the first post they see that opposes it, just as those who support it will place their like behind the first post they see, which is the OP. Of course 100 likes is not a lot by itself, but you have to consider the forum environment and how many users even utilize it, much less browsing through this topic specifically. I doubt many topics on the forum reach that level of likes.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

I have seen plenty in favor of this feature sticking around for the past 30 or 40 pages. Yourself included.

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In no small part due to taking issue with false accusations of bigotry, I'd note.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

I would say that's both sides equally. Unless you have hard numbers proving this, you're just speculating in favor of those wanting the feature. Again, a biased opinion. I have seen plenty in favor of this feature sticking around for the past 30 or 40 pages. Yourself included.

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I was going by the number of new posters beyond those of us who have been here since the single digit page era.

Considering the forum population to start with is a minority of the playerbase, not everyone reads any given topic, not everyone who reads a topic clicks likes, and there's no dislike system for a 1 to 1 comparison on a single post, I would take the number of likes with a grain of salt.