Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

I was SOOO happy to see in the new skill video that monk was presented by hrothgal!! Super cool ah. Brighty mighty :o

Too much bare skin. Cats are covered with fur, end to end.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

What would be the best place to do that?

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Bug reports subforum: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/632

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Too much bare skin. Cats are covered with fur, end to end.

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Would be cool if one clan was super hairy (Lost) and one clan is more skin (the Helion)

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Too much bare skin. Cats are covered with fur, end to end.

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Hrothgal - Maine Coon edition

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Originally Posted by Minali

Hrothgal - Maine Coon edition

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Big Kitty(Gal).
(just stating, while the amount of fur is curious, I don't hate or dislike it. just is. when it comes to Rothgals. Still Maine Coon, regardless of how much fur she has all over. Height Matters.)

ended up settling on this look for mine, i think. absolutely fantasia-ing (and fantasia-ing an existent alt into my current femroe design)

https://i.imgur.com/7NxbhHG.png

https://i.imgur.com/3fPKIyx.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/6adMSpb.png

(i was so glad they gave us the coeurl whiskers as an option on femgar)

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

(i was so glad they gave us the coeurl whiskers as an option on femgar)

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I might've screamed a little bit when I saw this. They look so good too!

i am hoping that the Ala Mhigan Locks are available for them from the stylist, i just love that particular hairstyle.

Them Black Fangs

I'm struggling from lack of choices for the options I like. I would love to have a separate Tail Pattern, the ability to choose which ears I want to use, the ability to swap the hairstyles freely, and an option for having highlights in my hair separate from the Fur Color selection. As it stands right now, I absolute adore Face 1, Hairstyle 2 from Face 2, the Ears and EarTufts from Face 4, the back pattern from Pattern 4 and the Tail Pattern from Patterns 1 and 4.

I'm hoping that in the future a lot more of these options become universal on the Hrothgals, since their head-shape seems to be more human-esque and it's easy to see that the ears and hair would all work pretty decently across the different heads by just swiping your mouse across the previews to see them rapidly switch (also because every head already has access to Hairstyle 5, which is the same across all of them and has highlights on it!)

The 1.1 bench lighting is much nicer. Below is with max settings and gamma set to zero in the bench, the higher gamma still washes things out imo.

https://i.imgur.com/2vkczB0.jpeg

I'm OBSESSED
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...325860f64c7c8&

My little Pip is just as cute with maybe 10% more fluff. I really need to set the Gamma to 0. But even with what I have now I am more than happy! Now we just wait for SE to unlock the hairstyles between the faces...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPIuD0dX...jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPIuFUgW...jpg&name=large

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Originally Posted by Reinha

I hope they fix whatever graphical bugs they find in the Hrothgal model, like this one.

https://i.postimg.cc/5NK190wb/DTbench-Bug.png

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This has been fixed in the new benchmark! My cat woman is perfect now. :)

By the way, Hrothgal battle voice clips were changed a little for some voice options so people might want to check those again for their character.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

This has been fixed in the new benchmark! My cat woman is perfect now. :)

By the way, Hrothgal battle voice clips were changed a little for some voice options so people might want to check those again for their character.

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Thanks for the info about the voices! I admit I would have missed this. :) And yes, it's cool this gap in the eyes was fixed. It looked really odd. ^^

I am just happy they left female hrothgar alone, minus the minor glitches like the eyebrows. I really didn't want to have to go back to the drawing board with mine. At first, I thought they made the arms and body frame bigger but realized it was just my eyes playing tricks on me. Whew.

Has there been any mentions / discussions on if the odd eyeline/eyebrow around Face 3 that currently can't have its colour changed may be adjusted in future?

Trying to make a 'Lost' Hrothgar but struggling due to my preferred face option having this unchangeable detail to it since most of my skin tone options are limited to black and white (No Human tones available to Lost which is a odd choice I won't dig deeper into the aspect of Political Stance of choosing to worship a queen, Lost Vs Helions has defining racial differences compared to other Races that actively live in different climates)

So if I want to make a Face 3 Darker skin tone I have this horrible light white/cream ish Fur patch around the eyes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...fca3bf997961b&

Even when attempting to cover it up using face paint eyeshadow on 'Dark' black option it still is present
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...23be93c38a09f&

Would really love to see a way to change this on an already rather limited customisable race (hairstyles being tied to faces etc) Having even further things tacked onto them that are out of players ability to customize adds even more limitations / feeling of not being unique enough for players , hell even a toggle option to make the lighter fur spots 'black / darker' if it cant have a full colour selection.

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Originally Posted by Avius

Has there been any mentions / discussions on if the odd eyeline/eyebrow around Face 3 that currently can't have its colour changed may be adjusted in future?

Trying to make a 'Lost' Hrothgar but struggling due to my preferred face option having this unchangeable detail to it since most of my skin tone options are limited to black and white (No Human tones available to Lost which is a odd choice I won't dig deeper into the aspect of Political Stance of choosing to worship a queen, Lost Vs Helions has defining racial differences compared to other Races that actively live in different climates)

So if I want to make a Face 3 Darker skin tone I have this horrible light white/cream ish Fur patch around the eyes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...fca3bf997961b&

Even when attempting to cover it up using face paint eyeshadow on 'Dark' black option it still is present
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...23be93c38a09f&

Would really love to see an already rather limited customisable race given hairstyles being tied to faces etc having even further things tacked onto them that are out of players ability to customize, hell even a toggle option to make the lighter fur spots 'black / darker' if it cant have a full colour selection

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This is how it was with the males. All human tones are with the Helion. And the white around the eyes is how it was with the males with darker skin. Not saying it isn't a legitimate request, it just seems they are replicating the male design.

Joining in on the request of being able to change the white spot around the eyes.
It's quite invasive and ruins some color choices.

I want to play my lion queen sooo badly, she looks so good!

That said, I'm really sad to see basically all of our feedback except a few minor ones about Hrothgar of both genders were ignored. And barely any of these points are new to begin with, mind you. They did nothing about the hairstyles, they did nothing about the claws being attached to the gear instead of the character as a feature with a toggle, they didn't give the guys (and gals) a toggle for the hunch despite there being Hrothgar walking upright in the trailer. (Not to mention they always managed to stand upright in many general emotes, like dances and stuff.) They didn't add anything to our very limited colour palettes, nor detach hair highlights from the body pattern. Adjusting the hairstyle might take time, idk, but the claws exist, the character creator option for special race specific features exist, Hrothgar in upright poses exist.. It would really not be a lot of effort. Of course there is always hope they fix this in the patches, but Hrothguys have been waiting for these things since Shadowbringers. Hard to believe they'll fix it now all of a sudden, especially after making the conscious decision to build an entirely new character category with the same issues.

I love how my soon to be character looks, but at the same time I hate to see all the things she's missing out on for no other apparent reason than being low priority or trying to cover up how bad the guys had it at release, by making the same crap all over again. It's sad.

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Originally Posted by Minali

I want to play my lion queen sooo badly, she looks so good!

That said, I'm really sad to see basically all of our feedback except a few minor ones about Hrothgar of both genders were ignored. And barely any of these points are new to begin with, mind you. They did nothing about the hairstyles, they did nothing about the claws being attached to the gear instead of the character as a feature with a toggle, they didn't give the guys (and gals) a toggle for the hunch despite there being Hrothgar walking upright in the trailer. (Not to mention they always managed to stand upright in many general emotes, like dances and stuff.) They didn't add anything to our very limited colour palettes, nor detach hair highlights from the body pattern. Adjusting the hairstyle might take time, idk, but the claws exist, the character creator option for special race specific features exist, Hrothgar in upright poses exist.. It would really not be a lot of effort. Of course there is always hope they fix this in the patches, but Hrothguys have been waiting for these things since Shadowbringers. Hard to believe they'll fix it now all of a sudden, especially after making the conscious decision to build an entirely new character category with the same issues.

I love how my soon to be character looks, but at the same time I hate to see all the things she's missing out on for no other apparent reason than being low priority or trying to cover up how bad the guys had it at release, by making the same crap all over again. It's sad.

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I've realized I am just going to have to be rocking those False Nails you get from the Beast Tribes in Stormblood. I don't think the hrothgal gloves will go with my current glam.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I've realized I am just going to have to be rocking those False Nails you get from the Beast Tribes in Stormblood. I don't think the hrothgal gloves will go with my current glam.

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If they don't work out: There are also the Claws you can get from the Gold Saucer (I think?), used them with my Hrothgar occasionally. They match a little bit better due to their animalistic nature.

Still sucks we need workarounds like this. :(

Time to check:
My Main
My Alts
My Alternate Rothgal Versions(Including "Blue")
and test out the idea of "Noemi" or maybe a "Filia"(had a Filia in Eden Eternal long ago. but with the naming schemes. and what I'm attributing to the names. I'll have to do some mental linking)

Are the shadows and lighting bugging out for anyone else when any but the first Fur Pattern option (tiger stripes) are chosen (even when not checked in the Fur Color selection)?

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Originally Posted by Atticon

Are the shadows and lighting bugging out for anyone else when any but the first Fur Pattern option (tiger stripes) are chosen (even when not checked in the Fur Color selection)?

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I didn't notice anything odd but I also failed to notice big visible seams the first time around, so I might have missed it. Can you maybe elaborate how exactly this appears for you? Then I can check.

Female Hrothgar face 1 still has a chinstrap beard. It's not noticeable on light skin tones but dark it really pops has no one else noticed this? https://i.imgur.com/nPRZUcH.jpeg

It occurs on every character creator environment except the old style aetherial background. It's noticeable best in smallclothes, viewed from the back with light shining on the back. Just pick "Fur Pattern" and switch between the first option and any of the 4 others, you should immediately notice it. It's as if the "decal" of the fur pattern casts a shadow of itself.
It's hard to show in a still though.
https://i.imgur.com/EI1GSb6.jpeg

I'd throw that up on the bug reports section

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Female Hrothgar face 1 still has a chinstrap beard. It's not noticeable on light skin tones but dark it really pops has no one else noticed this? https://i.imgur.com/nPRZUcH.jpeg

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Yeah i noticed it right away

It's a great little detail

https://i.imgur.com/rDhQSJQ.png

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It occurs on every character creator environment except the old style aetherial background. It's noticeable best in smallclothes, viewed from the back with light shining on the back. Just pick "Fur Pattern" and switch between the first option and any of the 4 others, you should immediately notice it. It's as if the "decal" of the fur pattern casts a shadow of itself.
It's hard to show in a still though.
https://i.imgur.com/EI1GSb6.jpeg

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Fascinating. Yep, can confirm, it's here as well. In certain angles it's also in the front and the upper arm.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Yeah i noticed it right away

It's a great little detail

https://i.imgur.com/rDhQSJQ.png

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I love it! :'3 It may be one of those specific-looking things depending of the character, but personally I enjoy it a lot. It also add a bit of fine contrast at dark skin\fur!

One thing I have noticed that's changed from the previous benchmark is eyebrows are not as noticeable. I don't know if they thinned them out or what, but they used to be more prominent when selected. Slightly sad about it but not a dealbreaker.

BEBE WAKE UP HROTHGAL'S EMOTES JUST DROPPED (happy embargo lifting day everyone!!!)

Someone drop a content creator that was smart enough to test the standing and sitting /cposes!! ToT

The eyes of Face 2 for Hrothgal look too small compared to the rest. It feels strange for tall and muscular women, even smaller than the eyes of short Miqo'te.

I think the eye size should match the rest of the features, or even be slightly bigger.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Someone drop a content creator that was smart enough to test the standing and sitting /cposes!! ToT

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpkw5fsWgEw

Please go to 2:27 to see all of the standing and sitting !
Cpose 3 will be my default for standing for sure, it was one of the standing poses I was hoping for ;;

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Originally Posted by ugie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpkw5fsWgEw

Please go to 2:27 to see all of the standing and sitting !
Cpose 3 will be my default for standing for sure, it was one of the standing poses I was hoping for ;;

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Thanks for sharing!

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Originally Posted by ugie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpkw5fsWgEw

Please go to 2:27 to see all of the standing and sitting !
Cpose 3 will be my default for standing for sure, it was one of the standing poses I was hoping for ;;

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Bless u!!

Those sit poses are quite viera-like.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Yeah i noticed it right away

It's a great little detail

https://i.imgur.com/rDhQSJQ.png

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Love it!

Now if only we could have cat-like fur and hair colours. I'm really disappointed that I can't make an orange tigress because all colour options seem unnatural for cats (too neon, too pink, too muddy, too blue, too green and even the black isn't a true black).
I really wish we could get more golden and orange tones in the skin colours and the vibrant colour palette Miqo'te have for hair.
Especially the Lost only really have white as a natural cat colour. Not the black is not a real black - I have a black cat at home and panther fur is much darker than the available dark greys and has a brown undertone.

PLEASE SE put some orange and gold into the colour themes for the Lost!