Seriously 3-5 minute repop on NMs?

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

It's a waste of time when the NM does exactly what its lower leveled self does. I solod the pyraunt at r35... i felt like I was fighting a pteroc with a lot of hp... that's it

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Then the argument is to make more engaging and interesting NMs, not increase their spawn time.

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Originally Posted by Reika

I know my master enjoys the update. If she is happy, I am happy ^^.

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Giggity?

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

There are two ways they can keep items that are meant to be rare, rare:

1) Have long spawn times or pop NMs that require a rare item to pop them.
2) Have shorter spawn times but lower drop rate.

There will be people who argue for both options. Both are viable. It doesn't change the fact that both require time to be invested. So they are both "wastes of time" as the uneducated like to refer to them.

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You misunderstand, I did not say hardcore mechanics shouldn't have time investments. I said these mechanics with time investments should have players spending that long amount of time being active, not passively waiting in one spot.

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Originally Posted by Reddrag

OMG!!!! Look at me!!! I'm here to whine about NM repop times... I mean seriously you people cry and cry about casual vs. hardcore... don't you see when you whine about something that casual players want, SE will see it, then you whine about hardcore players want, SE will see it too.

Really, quit bitching and understand, you're not the only person they are trying to make happy... It sucks, we know they shouldn't try to focus on everyone and pick only one, but don't you already see how it is, thats not how it works. So the best thing we can do is see that they did that with the repop times and hope they do something else.

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everyone paid the same cash why can't they focus content for all

more ppl can do it easier to find a group to join dude..

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Problem is casual run the world in MMO, if they want this they get it because there the key players. But it's true casual players don't even play long enough they leave and play other game.

SE going to lose players matter what, that why everyone still on FFXI. i don't want FFXI hardcore and i don't want wow casual make it in the middle -.-

bad thing that ever happen to ffxiv is make forums they should just make it how they want it and see if players like it then make a poll every few months or every month and see what the review says.

Because sadly listening to the same 15+players on here wont help you make a mmo. Not everyone who playing ffxiv or quit and waiting are getting there voice in FFXIV. So sadly i think polls would be best to hear overall player base and leave the forums for something else.

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Exactly. I don't want a purely "hardcore" game either. What I advocate is a "middle ground" game that has enough for hardcores to do while still being accessible (read: not catering to) to casuals.

Obviously they made it to where if you defeated it plenty of times you'd get bored and move on after you've gotten your item. This gives more people a chance to do this and at a quicker rate. Everyone is going to swarm these NMs and if the repop was even 20 minutes, people will be whining about how slow they repop.

Hot damn, you can't please everyone can you? Can't you guys complain about something that hasn't JUST BEEN implemented?

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Originally Posted by Visch

Who cares about people who are going to quit in 2 months? If they make a game that 500k people are going to play for 8 years they'll make more money then a game that 2 million will play for 3 months.

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yes, because you dictate who's going to stay and who's going to leave in 2 months, right?
But do go on arbitrarily deciding what other people plan on doing, it's amusing.

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Originally Posted by snowstriker

Then the argument is to make more engaging and interesting NMs, not increase their spawn time.

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He already made the point that MMO's shouldn't cater to casuals because they won't be here as long as hardcores. Spawn times really has nothing to do with that, and with what some of them are dropping now, the timers are nothing. I got canvas slops. Really? I would've rathered exp/sp

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

Giggity?

/10chars

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Giggity goo

I suggest a nice relaxing break from FFXIV. I hear there are some wonderful 24hr respawn NMs in FFXI....