I hope dungeons in this game aren't like western MMO dungeons

I think gear does need to progress to some extent. After a bit in FFXI, when I got geared up, I wondered what the point of continuing to try to seek out gear was, since it was all roughly the same strength and took up oodles of space in my inventory. Yes there was storage, but you needed full sets to use it. While it is good for you to be able to use armor for a while, at the same time the game should reward players for not resting on their laurels.

I'm all for dungeons with a bit more depth, but at the same time I have very bad memories of just sitting there, for hours, doing nothing but staring at a spot where the group MIGHT get an NM but oftentimes didn't. This just wasted a few hours of their lives for absolutely nothing. This was especially bad since when the window approached you'd be yelled at to "focus" and couldn't even talk to pass the time. That was not fun at all, and if instances completely eliminate ever having to experience that again, I'll be more than happy.

If the boss fights are challenging but not ridiculously long (you know which boss I'm thinking of when I say that) I'll be thrilled.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I'd rather have dungeons and content like how they're done in the .hack// series...multibranched instance with a treasure chest at the end where you fight the endboss. :p

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i would love thar maybe instace dungeons similar to how .hack is where you have a word phrase that transports you do a dongeuon with various themes and layouts similar to .hack :3
that game got me into mmo since it simulated one. So i always give props to it.

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

And with good experience points, too. Any long battles should at least be rewarding to character level progression. I got pretty sick of the lack of SP from the sidequests, and stopped doing them altogether.

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you can't really expect side quests to give exp not with a multi class 1 character game. Its more for story telling if anything.

btw ffxi had tier gear...
it was artifact gear. you had the base which was around 50 then the af set from dynamis, then the af set from aby. (which is fairly challenging to get.)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Without giving too much away... Let's just say... I hope everyone can read and speak fluent Latin!

(Just kiddin')

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I can read latin :P I'm all set then.

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Originally Posted by roganoken

I'm looking forward to these dungeons/raid events...but well, i'm really hoping that you guys are planning this content for more than 8 man parties.

I mean, the 1.17 update is really nice and party's member limitation needed to be lowered. But its going to be a pain for some quite middle or important ls to plan such events if you can only enter with 8 ppl. Its all about fun, cohesion and management.

I'm really concerned about that.

(nb: sorry for my english !)

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I don't see that being an issue, split into two groups.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

I liked some of the dungeons in WoW... but.. umm dungeons are being instanced. And really dynamis and WoW dungeons were pretty much the same imo.
Sorry kinda tired of the WoW hate. content is content, better then no content.

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Seconded. Not to mention some of the instances were nifty in their own way (granted, the current generation had trouble recognizing the Raiders of the Lost Ark reference in Uldaman and seeing why Emperor Thaurissan dropping an invisible cape called "The Emperor's New Cape" was so funny).

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Outdoor nm's/hnm's, outdoor end game zones(sea/sky) etc are also a ton better than dungeons for end game content, imo. It makes the world feel more alive, it makes it feel like you're playing an MMO, it makes it feel like a real world.

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You know as well as I do that this sparks useless and senseless drama and competition. That's not something anyone who has seen more than one MMO needs more of. I grew bored of that during Lineage II and got sick of it when I saw the same crap in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

i would love thar maybe instace dungeons similar to how .hack is where you have a word phrase that transports you do a dongeuon with various themes and layouts similar to .hack :3
that game got me into mmo since it simulated one. So i always give props to it.

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o.o please no ; ;i would die if it was like that i would never quit FFXIV :) Becuase .hack dungeons where awesome. I think .hack would have been a sweet online game if they had more money.

So you enter the Dungeons with your friends and the map is not clear as you go you open more ports of the map and go to diffent levels with in the dungeons and Fight Mobs and there a big boss at the end then you open the chest and you get your items. Each time you redo the dungeons the map is reset with a diffident layout and there no way to tell what layout it would pick next.

I can't wait to see how these dungeons are going to be when it comes out.

Was there any word as to whether the dungeons are related to Grand Companies or are they separate content altogether? I wonder if the beastmen tribes will play a big role in those dungeons, but I hope they add a lot more beast tribes free roaming and maybe some human mobs in some regions perhaps from the Garlean Empire.