Euphrosyne feels a bit lacking

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Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing

the only lacking thing about this stupid raid tier is that Halone didnt get her own battle theme instead getting sidled with the stupid irish pub brawl bullcrap

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Honestly all of the Twelve shouldve gotten their own music. Soken really dropped the ball here

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Honestly all of the Twelve shouldve gotten their own music. Soken really dropped the ball here

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Agreed. But isn't he recovering from cancer? Might need to cut him some slack here.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Agreed. But isn't he recovering from cancer? Might need to cut him some slack here.

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If we're going to be critical of the dev team in the forums like everyone of you have no issue of doing, then that means Soken counts too.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

The difficulty is fine when you're required to get through it weekly for 530 gear over and over. No one wants to have to keep wiping to Nymeia enrage because people aren't pushing their buttons, when they just really want a clear for their upgraded gear.

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You say this and yet Weeping City, Dun Scaith and yes, even Orbonne are all beloved raid series. What people want is a balance. One could argue Orbonne was a step too far with how easily Cid could wipe Alliances but the Twelve went in the opposite direction where it's damn near impossible for them to wipe anyone.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

You say this and yet Weeping City, Dun Scaith and yes, even Orbonne are all beloved raid series. What people want is a balance. One could argue Orbonne was a step too far with how easily Cid could wipe Alliances but the Twelve went in the opposite direction where it's damn near impossible for them to wipe anyone.

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eh I feel Cid isnt that hard, I rarely wipe there and usually yet again, difficulty is arbitrarly relying on people understanding mechanics. The reason why Dun Scaith - Diabolos is still legit hard for casual content is because even when you do know the mechanics, you still can get caught off guard from a lot of the chaos going on during the last phase, huge tank busters, trying to not hit exploding balls that cause you to push into another one creating a chain reaction, look away stack markers etc. With Cid, once you know the dance, the mechanics themselves pose no danger. We need more bosses like Diabolos honestly

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

eh I feel Cid isnt that hard, I rarely wipe there and usually yet again, difficulty is arbitrarly relying on people understanding mechanics. The reason why Dun Scaith - Diabolos is still legit hard for casual content is because even when you do know the mechanics, you still can get caught off guard from a lot of the chaos going on during the last phase, huge tank busters, trying to not hit exploding balls that cause you to push into another one creating a chain reaction, look away stack markers etc. With Cid, once you know the dance, the mechanics themselves pose no danger. We need more bosses like Diabolos honestly

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Cid was heavily nerfed and they added a heavy echo to the entire raid. Orbinne now is nowhere near as bad as it was.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

You say this and yet Weeping City, Dun Scaith and yes, even Orbonne are all beloved raid series. What people want is a balance. One could argue Orbonne was a step too far with how easily Cid could wipe Alliances but the Twelve went in the opposite direction where it's damn near impossible for them to wipe anyone.

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You say this but it's one of the only instances of casual content with a hard enrage, one that groups have reached pretty frequently.

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Originally Posted by ForteNightshade

You say this and yet Weeping City, Dun Scaith and yes, even Orbonne are all beloved raid series. What people want is a balance. One could argue Orbonne was a step too far with how easily Cid could wipe Alliances but the Twelve went in the opposite direction where it's damn near impossible for them to wipe anyone.

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so...your reasoning is that you would want to have multiple wipes in a run? Like what are you even arguing for, I get you want the challenge but saying odd stuff like this is just not helping your argument for the general audience to get behind

I've figured out what feels off to me.

Third boss is a good hard fight, feels like it should be the last fight.

Last fight... might as well be a square dance at a country faire. Complete with fiddles.

What if they'd gotten swapped?

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

If we're going to be critical of the dev team in the forums like everyone of you have no issue of doing, then that means Soken counts too.

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The fun part is that there are several people responsible for the soundtrack, some of my favorite tracks are not made by Soken at all.

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Originally Posted by Cach

The fun part is that there are several people responsible for the soundtrack, some of my favorite tracks are not made by Soken at all.

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Im Uematsu biased as heck, I enjoy any of the recycled 1.0 songs in this game just because. They reek of early ps2 era games