ah, the fists of actions. verily, those are bad design... and they make little sense, to begin with, in my opinion.. since they seem to be more akin to magic, than aught else, and I have no memory of monk's identity ever to include "Elemental Brawler" in it....I have no idea what plans the Dev Team has for the Fists of actions, but I have been to write up and work on my own ideas for them...
I had concept ideas to re-design the fists of actions from toggle passives, to GCD WeaponSkills with a CD, that require forms like our other WeaponSkills, one for each form, with the aesthetic idea of to convert them from magic enhancements into Chakra-power Martial arts, and in order to add a bit more into the Monk rotation... I am still to work on the details of those concepts, though...
Not quite done with to complete it, yet.. as I need to in full theory-craft the CD parts of the re-design concept.
as for oGCDs... I think we will need to wait, see if Elixir Field and Tornado Kick were in fact made into blitzes, or if it was just similar animation, and those two are still around. That said, I am all for more oGCDs on Monk. If Monk has enough oGCDs, with different CDs, Monk could even single-weave as a constant, and gain a illusion of speed that makes it feel even more fast.
RIP MNK 1.x - 5.x
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09-23-2021, 06:31 AMAnahlise_Auhn_Giinslai
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09-23-2021, 07:57 AMwereotterI always interpreted that more as the developers being worried they would have a harder time balancing such a fast job to the other DPS than us having trouble playing it. But they always reword things so play down troubles they might have as troubles we would have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahnom
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09-23-2021, 08:08 PMBhearil
I am the only one worried with the multistrike Ying&Yang finisher? Having flashbacks of Dragoons stuck in jumping animation and prone to be murked by mechanics due to being unable to move in time:/
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09-23-2021, 09:59 PMKahnomOk, that's not funny if its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhearil
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09-23-2021, 10:58 PMNyarlhaThere is no reason for this to be true. I can't think of any other multi-hit animation locking anyone into place like DRG's Jumps which were always a special case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahnom
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09-23-2021, 11:50 PMSpeckledBurdThere's at least one case of a pure attack locking you in place in Assassinate, but I'd be surprised if they put it onto any of the Blitzes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyarlha
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09-24-2021, 12:27 AMGarnixYeah assassinate has quite a long CD so it's not too bad. But the Blitzes will be used a lot, so it would be quite dangerous to have a massive animation lock on them...Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd
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09-24-2021, 01:19 AMKabooaNot really. Just something you work around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhearil
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09-24-2021, 02:19 AMBhearilHaving something "you work around" when we are gonna use that move quite often on a really fast class is not something anyone would enjoy, moreso if you are trying to maximize your damage and the animation locks forces you to delay and lose dps or eat the atack (this is NOT the same as "stop dpsing and get away from the boss" moments). The animation lock its still quite annoying as a Dragoon and they are a far slower job and it was originally FAR WORSE (dead Dragoon memes spawned from those dark days) until they later reduced the lockQuote:
Originally Posted by Kabooa
Really hope it doesnt lock us in place, dont screw up Monk again
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09-24-2021, 04:46 AMaeoncsHow is it even possible to come to those conclusions if you've played Monk for years? ShB Monk is pretty much the easiest the job has been since ARR and EW finally seems to bring back some complexity at first glance. Masterful Blitz and its interaction with PB & formless shifts looks way more involved than two positionals and OGCDs, especially considering that we'll be generating more chakra which would have made overcapping even more of a pain than it currently is - it'll likely still be a problem in EW but to a much smaller degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morzy
People seriously need to look at the bigger picture:
- we'll be using PB more than twice as often (that alone already makes up for losing 1 OGCD) and in a complete new and seemingly engaging way, which really can't be said for the DK and LF spam
- more RoF burst windows that will most likely need more planning and careful execution to get the most out of each individual Blitz
- RoW, while not especially exciting, fits thematically and is an added OGCD
- more chakra due to PB and BH changes = more OGCD usage
I mean, being disappointed with some of the changes is fine but it's kinda mind-boggling how many "veteran Monk players" are seriously suggesting that the upcoming changes will make the job easier when everything points to the contrary.
And all of the above isn't even mentioning that we haven't seen a single skill or trait above level 82 thus far; I'd honestly be very surprised if the media tour coverage doesn't give us a new skill and/or trait to shake things up even more.
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It was definitely the new skill adding two chakra. It's basically a guaranteed crit just like Bootshine/Leaden Fist and since Brotherhood is always going to give us chakra upon executing a weapon skill during its duration, they basically gained one chakra from using the skill and another one due to the auto-crit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy_T93