SB is great, but are there any plans to shake up the endgame formula?

I swear, sometimes I read what you all say about XI and I just can't imagine how you could stand it.

Yes, FFXIV content becomes -generally-
irrelevant in a few months, but expecting players to spend literal months grinding for a pair of boots is so far on the other end of the "relevancy" spectrum it simply wouldn't be feasible to the general (keyword here) FFXIV audience. Most of the player base would never bother to try.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I swear, sometimes I read what you all say about XI and I just can't imagine how you could stand it.

Yes, FFXIV content becomes -generally-
irrelevant in a few months, but expecting players to spend literal months grinding for a pair of boots is so far on the other end of the "relevancy" spectrum it simply wouldn't be feasible to the general (keyword here) FFXIV audience. Most of the player base would never bother to try.

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gear wasn't made obsolete every 3-6 months like in XIV, which made it worth it. You also could swap gear while in combat which made pieces useful later. There was a variety activities to do in XI which kept it from getting stale. XIV you have raids or tome grind.

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Originally Posted by Brill_

XIV you have raids or tome grind.

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With "Tome grind" encompassing a multitude of content from dungeons over raids, hunts and PvP to minor amounts in treasure maps and beast tribe quests. PotD used to be an additional option as well.

Tome grinding is one of the most diverse activities in this game. Some options just lack in efficiency compared to others.

Well if the issue is the formula I suppose they could change it up.
Maybe next time instead of getting the same token over and over, you have to farm 4 tokens and you use different combinations to turn it into something else.
Maybe next time they put all the tokens into achievements tied to the patch content :D.
Maybe next time they still give boring content, but instead of redeeming it for gear, you redeem it for entry to a solo dungeon where you can win said gear (like a solo Aquapolis?)

Wouldn't amount to much of a difference as far as getting you to do the instances over and over again, you'd still be grinding, but the reward mechanism would be slightly different.

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Originally Posted by Khel

They tried a new solo trial of high difficulty during early access, people were not pleased.

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I still remember the closed beta solo trial against the Ascian and his pet. That poison was no joke ._.

Wish they would do something unique to this game...
You know...like...

JOB CHANGE IN DUNGEONS!

Oh the horror, the terror of needing to level up multiple jobs. :confused:

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Originally Posted by tymora

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Here's an example of what can happen:

Person 1 uses Healer's fast queue time to quickly enter a leveling dungeon. Let's say Doma Castle or Castrum Abania.
Person 1 now switches to the DPS they want to level up.
The Group now has no Healer, and the other 3 party members do not have a healer with the minimum level required for the dungeon.
Since Person 1 doesn't want to switch back to their Healer, the party cannot complete the dungeon.

What do you propose to prevent this example from happening?

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Originally Posted by Brill_

gear wasn't made obsolete every 3-6 months like in XIV, which made it worth it. You also could swap gear while in combat which made pieces useful later. There was a variety activities to do in XI which kept it from getting stale. XIV you have raids or tome grind.

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Swaping Gear in Combat sound both kind of dumb and also a inventory nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Brill_

gear wasn't made obsolete every 3-6 months like in XIV, which made it worth it. You also could swap gear while in combat which made pieces useful later. There was a variety activities to do in XI which kept it from getting stale. XIV you have raids or tome grind.

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Well, if I remember correctly, come 4.2(or 4.25, can't remember which it was said to be), Eureka will be released, and we will have Relic Gear in addition to Relic Weapons. So...don't think they gears will be obsolete quite as quickly. Will likely require a fair bit more work to keep them current, but I doubt they will be useless as quickly as most other gears we have.

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Originally Posted by tymora

JOB CHANGE IN DUNGEONS!

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1.0 had something like this and people hated it.

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Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic

What do you propose to prevent this example from happening?

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make every dungeon so easy all trash mobs die to Triple Cast Flares so you don't need to heal and every player that doesn't have BLM level gets vote kicked instantly. it would be the best game (NOT).

it is a ridiculously terrible idea and i have every single job leveled.