Studying The Blade- The SAM DPS Guide

I'd like to get some opinions/comparisons of the Midare Spamming Sams who ignore Hagakure entirely. I find it strange that some people are ignoring the class' most powerfull cd and still coming out ontop if they get RNG crits. Seems off to me. Can we get some more numbers/examples of the Midare only sams to compare dealing specifically with Omega Savage? I've melded DH > DET > Crit as many have stated is best overall, and find it lackluster in comparison to seeing more frequent Crits.

Perhaps depending on the Fights one would be stronger than the other?

Current stats with food:
Dhit: 1940
Det: 1514
Crit: 1389

I imagine Hagakure will do more damage on average, but Midare is more like rolling a dice, if it crits, it's a DPS gain, but it most likely won't. Also, keep in mind Hagakure is completely mobile damage, Lajitsu always roots you, so midare "spam" is also more vulnerable to getting interrupted by mechanics.

What some people don't seem to realize is that you can not simple stack 1-2 stats. The more DH you have the more valuable the others become. So by all means stack DH to 2k levels and ignore the rest, your dps will plummet and you'll only have yourself to blame. These 'stat priorities' are more of a guide and how your stats should look once you are done. You want DH > Det > Crit to be highest in that order. For instance I currently sit at 1650 DH, 1425 Det, 1375 Crit on my sam. The stat priorities do not mean stack DH above all else.

The only stat that really has a stopping point for sam is SS and that point is 940. Any more SS and you will start to start to throw your rotation out of line for a 1 sen opener

Parse for o1 savage.

My gear is roughly the same now as it was at the time of the parse. Then, I had more skill speed and direct hit, and less crit. Vitality melds for o3 and 4...

Crit 785
Det 1389
Direct 1505
Sks 1654
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/8083399/

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Originally Posted by Ariyn

The only stat that really has a stopping point for sam is SS and that point is 940. Any more SS and you will start to start to throw your rotation out of line for a 1 sen opener

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Then do the 3 Sen of opener. It requires a lot more Sks to break - 1783 according to Dervy.
Sks is also weighted at the highest with 0.15 (weighted for 320) compared to 0.13 for DH. However, it loses value when there's downtime or disconnects with the boss.

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Originally Posted by Allyrion

Then do the 3 Sen of opener. It requires a lot more Sks to break - 1783 according to Dervy.
Sks is also weighted at the highest with 0.15 (weighted for 320) compared to 0.13 for DH. However, it loses value when there's downtime or disconnects with the boss.

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3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

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Originally Posted by ArtificialxSky

Parse for o1 savage.

My gear is roughly the same now as it was at the time of the parse. Then, I had more skill speed and direct hit, and less crit. Vitality melds for o3 and 4...

Crit 785
Det 1389
Direct 1505
Sks 1654
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/8083399/

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Parse is here. https://www.fflogs.com/reports/yTnPr...qz7Zj#fight=35

Sks is roughly weighted the highest substat. Will link when have time.

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

I'd like to get some opinions/comparisons of the Midare Spamming Sams who ignore Hagakure entirely. I find it strange that some people are ignoring the class' most powerfull cd and still coming out ontop if they get RNG crits. Seems off to me. Can we get some more numbers/examples of the Midare only sams to compare dealing specifically with Omega Savage? I've melded DH > DET > Crit as many have stated is best overall, and find it lackluster in comparison to seeing more frequent Crits.

Perhaps depending on the Fights one would be stronger than the other?

Current stats with food:
Dhit: 1940
Det: 1514
Crit: 1389

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Here are the PPS for 3 Sen Hagakure use versus Midare.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...14/unknown.png

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Originally Posted by Ariyn

3 sen opener is also less DPS due to lining up with TA/Embolden as well. If you wish to go the SS route then that's your choice but no top parsing sam is pushing it for good reason.

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1) I'm not pushing a Sks build. It's a complicated stat that has other factors involved than being the best stat or keeping it below 940.

2) There are quite a few top (95%+) SAM with +1500 Sks. Again, I'm not to stack that but it's an alternate build people are working on. High uptime is needed or you lose dps so it's actually only top SAM that can pull it off in progression anyway.

3) Most of the top SAM parses use the 3 Sen opener if you check it. It isn't as great for TA but it works just as well for Embolden. It spikes and then lulls at 3 mins but lines up better for future raid cooldowns (including TA). The differences between the two even out fairly quickly even taking those CDs into account.

The 1 Sen clips very early on and even without stacking Sks, people will have to learn to if they don't get the right drops. By the next raid, the one will probably be dead.

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Originally Posted by ArtificialxSky

Parse is here. https://www.fflogs.com/reports/yTnPr...qz7Zj#fight=35

Sks is roughly weighted the highest substat. Will link when have time.

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Here's your best Susanno log https://www.fflogs.com/reports/1WyXn...pe=damage-done
Here's the logs for a 1 sen Sam not going SS: https://www.fflogs.com/reports/hQzap...pe=damage-done
And his gearset: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6215781/ Granted he has a couple pieces on for glamour.

900 dps difference between your build and his. Can't really judge on O1S since it's not exactly easy to find those parses on fflogs atm