question how far is to far

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Except... as far as I know, all male-only pieces have a female-only equivalent. That's the problem. We're not saying "make all female-only items unisex", because several of them (swimsuits, yukatas, EB ceremony outfits) already have male versions. We're only talking about those female-only outfits that don't have a male-only variety.

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I don't know of any others off the top of my head, but the new cid outfit is male only with no female equivalent as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I don't know of any others off the top of my head, but the new cid outfit is male only with no female equivalent as far as I know.

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The Minfilia outfit? That's the closest one to compare, though that one includes exclusive hair too. The guys are ahead in raw numbers from the Scion outfits on Mog Station but redressing the balance via paid add-ons is a questionable trend at best.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I don't know of any others off the top of my head, but the new cid outfit is male only with no female equivalent as far as I know.

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Sure there is. Minfilia. All the scion outfits are genderlocked to the gender of the scion in question, as far as I know =)

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

I don't know of any others off the top of my head, but the new cid outfit is male only with no female equivalent as far as I know.

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Minfilia, Yda, Y'shtola, and Lightning are female only.
Cid, Urianger, Papalymo, Thancred, and Snow are male only.
Ironworks is unisex.

So yeah, right now males are actually one up.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

So yeah, right now males are actually one up.

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In the cash shop. To make up for being however many sets behind in normally available glamour sets.

Mostly I'm just laughing my ass off at how many players with female characters are suddenly up in arms about equality after years of saying "just Fantasia into a female" while the issue wasn't affecting them.

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

Sure there is. Minfilia. All the scion outfits are genderlocked to the gender of the scion in question, as far as I know =)

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Furthermore the Minfilia outfit comes with a unique hairstyle. The Cid version doesn't (though that's hardly a surprise when feminine/adrogynous sets soak up much of the attention).

IMO. I like gender lock.

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Originally Posted by 16bitBounty

No, males appearing in clothes for women is. If you want to wear clothes for women, play a woman. Bustiers are designed for women with their anatomy taken into account. Fishnet stockings are for women. Panties are for women.

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Gender normative much?

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

IMO. I like gender lock.

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as long as its fair i won't complain

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Originally Posted by Jpec07

Gender normative much?

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Not really. The vast majority of people subscribe to traditional gender norms. It's very much a vocal minority who are pushing for that to change - and rather than agreeing to a compromise they're pushing for everything to made accessible to everybody which in turn limits creativity and the pride that comes with being a specific race or gender.