Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

Just had a run of Brayflox with a paladin decked out in strength gear who despite that, could not hold hate for the life of them no matter how many times they spammed flash. When they did manage to keep hate they never dodged AoE's so their health plummeted so fast that it wasn't worth the healer bothering, the tank would then proceed to run over to the rest of the group leading the entire mob towards the group, dying and setting them all on the healer. It's a miracle we made it to the end boss of the dungeon but no further than that as the tank was refusing to pull the boss out of the poison pools. Healer got sick of dying and abandoned and I left shortly afterwards.

Please don't use strength gear if you can't stay alive with it tanks, if you want to DPS, please, please be a DPS class instead.

Yesterday I did The Aery with a friend of mine, he tank I dps. It went all awesome we did good damage got to the last boss.
1. the other dps didn't seem to bother to get me out of the Sable Price (not once but like 3 times)
2. I have no idea what happened with the healer but he didn't seem to bother healing Esti; and after we wiped... they just left

Tho then we got an awesome astro and finished it without problems (even if I did die again of sable price)

Ran a Neverreap for expert roulette on SMN with a Sch that wouldn't Protect and a Bard that wouldn't Foe while the tank was doing full pulls and nearly died multiple times. When i told them they should use Protect and Foe to speed the run up and make it safer, the Bard said I should say please. I said I shouldn't have to say please for basic skill usage especially if it contributes to everyone for this run and I was kicked soon after. c'est la vie

I really despise Bards that sit on full mp with a caster in the party.

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Originally Posted by Zephera

Please don't use strength gear if you can't stay alive with it tanks, if you want to DPS, please, please be a DPS class instead.

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VIT gear doesn't keep you from dying, it only keeps you from dying INSTANTLY. And there are no noteworthy tankbusters outside of Raids.
If a healer can't keep a tank in STR gear alive, they won't be able to keep a tank in VIT gear alive either (unless the reason the tank died is a mistake by the healer which causes him to miss a heal).
VIT accessories are pretty much useless outside of top-tier world-first progression where you absolutely need it for a tank buster.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

VIT gear doesn't keep you from dying, it only keeps you from dying INSTANTLY. And there are no noteworthy tankbusters outside of Raids.
If a healer can't keep a tank in STR gear alive, they won't be able to keep a tank in VIT gear alive either (unless the reason the tank died is a mistake by the healer which causes him to miss a heal).
VIT accessories are pretty much useless outside of top-tier world-first progression where you absolutely need it for a tank buster.

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The tank practically was dying instantly, like, 6 hits and dead.

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Originally Posted by Zephera

The tank practically was dying instantly, like, 6 hits and dead.

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Then VIT gear would not help him, it would make it like 8 hits instead - still the incoming damage would be above the received healing, and he would die soon.

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Originally Posted by MugenMugetsu

Well, you gotta be careful who you say something kinda rude to. You're fully entitled to say whatever you want, I'm not against you doing so, but "Use PF if baby wants their way." IS kinda mean. lol I'm with you on the fact that no one should have complained about the time it took for you guys to get through Neverreap though. Less than 30 minutes is ideal.

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I think I failed to mention how stressful said healer made the run. And what I said may have been in a way mean the guy was part of a premade party of 3 so I was the odd man out. This is one of the problems with partial pre made party's who then fill rest out in duty finder then take advantage of the vote kick feature.

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Originally Posted by AeraLure

The current meta as well as threads on these and other forums expect healers to dps any free moments they aren't healing. We'll actually get flak if we don't. Fractal, Neverreap and A2 especially it's Holy Town when I run them. The runs are very, very fast and tanks I run with regularly have never complained about it. Not in DF either, although I do find some groups seem to set the expectation to play speed runs that way and others it's a little more risky. If I see a tank do a big room-wide pull there I set up to spam Holy. I've never had a DF group or tank say not to do it, but I'd change it up if ever anyone said so.

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Never complained about healers who dps I never care so long as I'm still alive but I think they were spaming right away before I finished gathering the trash and about half way threw the dungeon the dps wer pulling stuff too. I'll end my comment on this situation.

I got kicked out of Dusk Vigil today for "not playing Swiftsong" on my MCH.

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Wut.

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Originally Posted by Selli

I got kicked out of Dusk Vigil today for "not playing Swiftsong" on my MCH.

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Wut.

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Yanno, playing songs with your turret
I mean c'mon


I got thrown in progress into a Snowcloak party. They were at the second boss, I was on my AST. As I'm running to meet the party, I get the message that they pulled the Yeti so I'm like to myself "there's no literal way for me to make it so idk what they're doing". I get to boss and wait for them all to die, because they locked me out.
After everyone rezzes outside and the boss unlocks, I'm kicked from the dungeon.

Um ok, bye

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Originally Posted by sayafrost

wait you lose exp if you are dead at the death of the boss?

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No. You still get experience while dead as long as you contributed to the fight and have group credit. Same thing with any fights in the world (ie: FATEs)