Bard and Wanderer's Minuet use it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

In all honesty, they would've caught it by now and fixed it.

---

A bug two weeks after launch involving a cross classed weaponskill almost no players ever equipped not being ironed out yet? Whodathunkit!

Sarcasm aside, Given that i have literally never seen a BRD or MCH use Feint (Hell, never even seen a DRG use it XD) I'm not surprised in the slightest that something like this slipped under the radar.
True to its wording, every single weaponskill learned by MCH or BRD has the cast, so i have to assume this was a bug.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sylve

Tis probably a bug. I wouldn't get used to it, GB and WM explicitly state "All weaponskills". Assume it'll be fixed.

---

Quite possibly. Would be a shame though. However, it is also quite likely that it isn't a bug either. It is considered a cross-class ability, and it originally comes from the Lancer skill tree. Still, It's strange though. Why doesn't the game consider a weaponskill itself, not a weaponskill? Maybe it has to do with the fact that Feint uses the animation of the original weapon (in this case a spear), similar to that of other classes/jobs cross-classing from other skill trees. Eh, time will tell. Fingers crosses that they don't touch it. I like my pseudo-Scathe as it is, thank you very much. >:c

Y'know, magical fists and all.

http://i.gyazo.com/d07a55d43a0ac015a35392adfb83feb2.gif

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Y'know, magical fists and all.

http://i.gyazo.com/d07a55d43a0ac015a35392adfb83feb2.gif

---

You made me choke on my pepsi with that gif.

It is possible its not a bug, But given the description on WM/GB i have to assume it is. Not going to stop me from finally having a fifth crossclass though ... I'm sure i'll end up using it a bit myself, just not going to be surprised or upset when they fix it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ScarecrowJames

its not about blms being longer or not, its about bards having that when they didnt.

Changing their gameplay they have played for several years.

---

PLD now have 3 combos instead of 1, and can't use the 3 with 100% uptime.
SMN now have a completly different rotation, and when 100% DoT uptime was key before, it's not so important now. They drastically changed their priorities.
BLM now have to manage a completly new buff which changes everything for them.
DRG positionnals are back when they were gone, changing their gameplay yet again.

... and you tell us that BRD can't adapt to their change when almost everyone else has to do the same thing? Come on... BRD players are not special snowflakes.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Fyce

PLD now have 3 combos instead of 1, and can't use the 3 with 100% uptime.
SMN now have a completly different rotation, and when 100% DoT uptime was key before, it's not so important now. They drastically changed their priorities.
BLM now have to manage a completly new buff which changes everything for them.
DRG positionnals are back when they were gone, changing their gameplay yet again.

... and you tell us that BRD can't adapt to their change when almost everyone else has to do the same thing? Come on... BRD players are not special snowflakes.

---

All those changes don't actually change the mechanics of the class though.... What happened to BRD was bascially:

"Oh you've had instant abilities this whole time? let me just turn you into a physical mage"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rekujin

All those changes don't actually change the mechanics of the class though.... What happened to BRD was bascially:

"Oh you've had instant abilities this whole time? let me just turn you into a physical mage"

---

1.5s wind up time doesn't change the mechanics of the class.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Verius_Nox

1.5s wind up time doesn't change the mechanics of the class.

---

But it does? you're changing the entire class by making it a turret-like caster, at this point it feels like a derped version of Black Mage, how can you deny this?

I'm fully aware the new song isn't used 24/7 and only during windows of opportunity, but that doesn't change the fact they are leaning towards a caster-like ranged physical class, which is NOT what the majority of BRDs signed up for.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rekujin

But it does? you're changing the entire class by making it a turret-like caster, at this point it feels like a derped version of Black Mage, how can you deny this?

I'm fully aware the new song isn't used 24/7 and only during windows of opportunity, but that doesn't change the fact they are leaning towards a caster-like ranged physical class, which is NOT what the majority of BRDs signed up for.

---

Considering you can move at 1.2s and still make the shot go off, and leave yourself with an extra second to plow through oGCD's, and move into another position, does not make you turret-like. Not to mention most BRD's in 2.0 did not move much unless mechanics called for it, because there wasn't a reason for it and sometimes it'd be a DPS loss. The mechanics of bard did not change. All that has changed is you have a wind up time for more damage, that you can toggle off to run around in circles or whatever it is you like to do.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Verius_Nox

There's 2 spots where the tornados never go during that second phase.

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...bismarckex.jpg

The two little ovals is about the area where they'll never run to you. Give it a bit of a trial and error, and you'll find that sweet spot. I've cleared Bismarck Ex as BLM.

---

Thank you for this.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rekujin

But it does? you're changing the entire class by making it a turret-like caster, at this point it feels like a derped version of Black Mage, how can you deny this?

I'm fully aware the new song isn't used 24/7 and only during windows of opportunity, but that doesn't change the fact they are leaning towards a caster-like ranged physical class, which is NOT what the majority of BRDs signed up for.

---

Please stop comparing the job to Black Mage.