The broken FFXIV Holy trinity

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Originally Posted by Sigiria

Because the skill speed is useful for spamming death blossom, and a lot of ninjas don't know this but doton cast with kassatsu make every damage of the dot critical so it does more damage than kassatsu+katon.

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If you're a good Ninja you already have Fuuton up though so that you don't have to waste a Ninjutsu when AoEing just to apply it. So Katon -> Kassatsu -> Doton is the correct answer, provided the mobs are going to live for the duration of the Doton. Otherwise just do Katon -> Kassatsu -> Katon while popping Death Blossoms.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

LOL! yeah... right.

Of course you could in FFXI with the right job.



This made me laugh, most of the DPS jobs could succesfully tank in FFXI. Ive solo tanked upto and including Delve as MNK and DNC. Stack up on PDT and MDT gear, sub

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Delve.....do you realise when I was talking about in FFXI. I was talking pre-delve and pre-easy mode FFXI.

I'm sorry the intelligence and compentence level I get from a lot of these comments is beyond stupid

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Originally Posted by Mercuito

I'm sorry the intelligence and compentence level I get from a lot of these comments is beyond stupid

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EDIT: Never mind, I see you already have a level 50 DPS job, assumed PLD was your first.

Since this thread had descended into madness i'll end by saying this.

SE I've said what I think. That's what these forums are for.
Yes I agree people are allowed to disagree which they have done. If you feel that it's worth listening to them cos "apprantly" that's what majority want and that who you want to play it. please don't listen to me.
At the end of the day I understand you guys have to make a living.

If DPS are getting hate it's the tank's fault, whether they be undergeared in comparison to the dps or just bad. A DPS should never have to 'slow down' unless one of the previous two things applies.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

If DPS are getting hate it's the tank's fault, whether they be undergeared in comparison to the dps or just bad. A DPS should never have to 'slow down' unless one of the previous two things applies.

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Sorry last post I promise....SE please read this comment and think about what kind of mentality you're teaching these players

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

If DPS are getting hate it's the tank's fault, whether they be undergeared in comparison to the dps or just bad. A DPS should never have to 'slow down' unless one of the previous two things applies.

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I am a dps, and if a dps gets aggro it's fault of both tank and the dps player in question. It is the job of every player to regulate their dps so as to keep aggro on tank where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by Mercuito

Sorry last post I promise....SE please read this comment and think about what kind of mentality you're teaching these players

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LOL se isn't teaching anyone anything. seriously.

just another ff11 lover trying to talk down a game that isn't like it.

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Originally Posted by Mercuito

Delve.....do you realise when I was talking about in FFXI. I was talking pre-delve and pre-easy mode FFXI.

I'm sorry the intelligence and compentence level I get from a lot of these comments is beyond stupid

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All jobs have always been able to tank in 11, please just stop. Warrior was the go to tank at 50 then anything /nin Bard, Ranger, Ninja, Rdm, Monk later on at NA and EU release. People who thought PLD and NIN were the only tanks just didnt understand how completly broken the enimty system in 11 was and still is to this day. Most people who use these arguments are just SKY warriors fighting over there genbu pride.

Don't worry, come Heavensward you can run around in the new dungeons and get your shit tossed and then by the time 3.0's life cycle is over and we're running gear several iLvl's higher than when we started and we're wiping the floor with all the dungeon content again you'll see it has nothing to do with SE breaking the trinity system.

As a side note, from my personal point of view I don't want to be running around in the highest to obtain gear at the end of a patch and still walk into a dungeon introduced 5 months prior and still get knocked around. I should feel powerful walking around in Dreadwyrm gear. I defeated Bahamut, how is a fire sprite going to kick my ass? Maybe when it's new, but not when it's old.