The female DRG AF belly window needs to be closed

Please make sure all future DRG AF Has belly windows on females. Because my opinion should override everyone elses, just like this topic. *Nods*

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

Even if that's the case, Gralna, I want my male Roe to wear a wedding dress once in a while, why not ? ;-;

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Because as a femroe I was unable to wear the twin tailed tux that males get for my ceremony, wore my dress for ceremony and it's been sitting on my retainer ever since. Almost went with just wearing the best man tux, but decided in the end it'd look strange if I was wearing same thing as half the audience, so opted to wear the dress.

I do agree that for bestman/bridesmaid gear it's unfair that female characters can wear both, but males are stuck with only the tux, even though they showed in a side quest, a male wearing the spring dress. However for the outfits provided for the eternal bonding ceremony, they kept both sets gender locked.

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Shouldnt that be the other way around...?

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Probably, but the guy I quoted was talking about Drg flexibility. Decided to go with it.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

Certainly there is. But we're talking about DRG armor specifically in this thread. There's no arguing that glamour allows for a rainbow of options - but none of those options allows for Dragoon armor on a male character with stomach exposed. Or, for that matter, Dragoon armor on a female with stomach covered.

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Don't we are talking about that specific female AF pieces show more skin than the male version?
The Monk pants and the Bard body fall into the same category.

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Or, for that matter, Dragoon armor on a female with stomach covered.

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Try it with this, it's armor for DRG:
http://xivdb.com/?item/3272/Onion-Armor

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Originally Posted by Sylve

The hole being there makes sense when you consider what a DRG does, and when you look closely at the armor itself.

Zoom in on it, you will notice that the area surrounding the hole is ribbed, which is in turn connected to a chain 'shirt' before going up to the shoulder area. A Job that jumps a lot would need a lot of flexibility in the stomach region. In my opinion, the ribbed armor and the hole reflects that.
The leveling scale mail armors are similar in that they appear to be quite flexible. So it really isn't such a weird thing.

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Oh. So... male dragoons aren't expected to be as flexible, is that what you're saying? O.o Or do you mean that female dragoons need more assistance in their endeavours to be flexible, and that's why their armour has blatant "shove your weapon here" gaps?
Ah, wait, I know. The holes both improve flexibility and provide incentive to utilize that flexibility. ;)

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

You mean fictional armour on fictional characters in a video game that most of which is pure fantasy and cannot possibly exist in the real world? Practicality is almost as bad an excuse as trying to justify your dislike by using the "it's not realistic". More than half the women and not just men on female avatars I actually play with choose to glamour their items to look like short skirts, soft and squishy dresses, halter tops and belly showing armour and such by choice even when running dungeons because they think it looks 'cute' so your preference for what you deem fashionable, in good taste or ideal is not the benchmark of which everyone else must comply with.

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Umm... Just out of curiosity... Since when did "actual impractical armour design" become equal to "illusion making your protective gear look impractical"? Cos that's what the glamour is. It's illusion-based. Meaning that those people running around in bikinis or reindeer costumes aren't actually doing so.
So why are people using glamours as an excuse to promote impractical armour design? And yes, those spikes and decorative plates and other extras that are so common on armour aren't really practical either, but at least those spikes and plates and extras are the same for men and women ^_~

(And yes, I'm also annoyed about the AF for Ninja... Even if it's a common difference from what I've seen in anime. But IMO they could have provided those differences to be optional. And because I'm the kind of person I am: Yes, that option should be available for both male and female ninja :p )

I haven't(and don't really care to read every post in this thread so apologies if someone has already said what I'm about to say. but why not just make it toggle-able? Some people clearly like it the way it is and to say "it needs to go" without taking their opinion into account is downright selfish. Unless the way other players dress up their characters really bothers you for some reason, I don't see why a toggle shouldn't be able to satisfy both sides.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Females IRL are generally more flexible

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Generally :P

http://www.personal.psu.edu/afr3/blo...erboy-ball.jpg

I'll go on record as saying I don't mind gender-locked sets. I don't even mind subtle differences between male and female armors, since there are obviously considerations needed to be made for men that aren't the same for women and vice versa.

...but yeah, that hole is absolutely ridiculous.

Practicality aside, it just plain LOOKS silly. Everywhere else is clad in thick armor and giant spikes, but my precious abdomen is apparently too precious to keep hidden under all that. Yes, Lalafell suffer from this as well. It's also why Dragoon is the first job for which I glamored over the original AF appearance.

I don't expect them to change it, and I couldn't care less if they do or not. I do think it's ridiculous though, and I'll be staying well away from it as a look for any job.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

The hole being there makes sense when you consider what a DRG does, and when you look closely at the armor itself.

Zoom in on it, you will notice that the area surrounding the hole is ribbed, which is in turn connected to a chain 'shirt' before going up to the shoulder area. A Job that jumps a lot would need a lot of flexibility in the stomach region. In my opinion, the ribbed armor and the hole reflects that.
The leveling scale mail armors are similar in that they appear to be quite flexible. So it really isn't such a weird thing.

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Seriously? If one can argue the need for a lack of armor where armor is needed most then obviously it would be same for both genders correct?
Also, DRG fight dragons, the habit of them chewing/breathing fire on their enemies is probably why derplander went for the more armored set. A belly is a bad place for a burn/dragon tooth to be.

I think the armor looks silly in general with all those spikes....but it's kinda late complaining now. We just looking for social aspects and nitpicking on few things we don't like at this point or bored or....idk

Well....while we're at it....know what I want?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._Armor_Set.JPG

Make it happen SE